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 Harrys
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8/16/2008 1:04:23 AM reply with quote send message to Harrys Object to Post   

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Here is a proposal for the breeders to consider for OES colors. These are the acceptable colors per the AKC and all the other OES organizations I've looked at.
I asked Shelgrace to help with the genetic strings and in less than 24 hours I had it! How cool is that??? Huge thanks to Shelgrace for helping so much and so quickly. If you read the 'Sheltie colors' thread in the Sheltie breed forum you'll see why I'm so thrilled. Anyway, please post your thoughts one way or another so we can get it nailed down and posted to the Apha forum for Jeff.

Thanks,
Chance

Fixed at AA,EE,BB,and GG.
Genes that vary: K, D, M, S (sp/sp = Piebald makes the dog mostly white)

Grey and Irish White
K/K m/m D/D si/si
K/kbr m/m D/D si/si
K/K m/m D/d si/si
K/kbr m/m D/d si/si
K/K m/m D/D si/sp
K/kbr m/m D/D si/sp
K/K m/m D/d si/sp
K/kbr m/m D/d si/sp

Grey and Piebald White
K/K m/m D/D sp/sp
K/kbr m/m D/D sp/sp
K/K m/m D/d sp/sp
K/kbr m/m D/d sp/sp

Blue and Irish White
K/K m/m d/d si/si
K/kbr m/m d/d si/si
K/K m/m d/d si/sp
K/kbr m/m d/d si/sp

Blue and Piebald White
K/K m/m d/d sp/sp
K/kbr m/m d/d sp/sp

Grey Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr m/m D/D si/si
kbr/kbr m/m D/d si/si
kbr/kbr m/m D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr m/m D/d si/sp

Grey Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr m/m D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr m/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr m/m d/d si/si
kbr/kbr m/m d/d si/sp

Blue Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr m/m d/d sp/sp

Grey Merle Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr M/m D/D si/si
kbr/kbr M/m D/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/m D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr M/m D/d si/sp

Grey Merle Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr M/m D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Merle Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr M/m d/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/m d/d si/sp

Blue Merle Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr M/m d/d sp/sp


Grey Merle and Irish White
K/K M/m D/D si/si
K/kbr M/m D/D si/si
K/K M/m D/d si/si
K/kbr M/m D/d si/si
K/K M/m D/D si/sp
K/kbr M/m D/D si/sp
K/K M/m D/d si/sp
K/kbr M/m D/d si/sp

Grey Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/m D/D sp/sp
K/kbr M/m D/D sp/sp
K/K M/m D/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Merle and Irish White
K/K M/m d/d si/si
K/kbr M/m d/d si/si
K/K M/m d/d si/sp
K/kbr M/m d/d si/sp

Blue Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/m d/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/m d/d sp/sp

Double Merle and Irish White
K/K M/M D/D si/si
K/K M/M D/d si/si
K/K M/M d/d si/si
K/Kbr M/M D/D si/si
K/kbr M/M D/d si/si
K/kbr M/M d/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/M D/D si/si
kbr/kbr M/M D/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/M d/d si/si
K/K M/M D/D si/sp
K/K M/M D/d si/sp
K/K M/M d/d si/sp
K/Kbr M/M D/D si/sp
K/kbr M/M D/d si/sp
K/kbr M/M d/d si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/d si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M d/d si/sp

Double Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/M D/D sp/sp
K/K M/M D/d sp/sp
K/K M/M d/d sp/sp
K/Kbr M/M D/D sp/sp
K/kbr M/M D/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/M d/d sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/d sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M d/d sp/sp

*edited to add percentages

Grey and Irish White - 27%
Grey and Piebald White - 5%
Blue and Irish White - 20%
Blue and Piebald White - 3%
Grey Grizzle and Irish White - 8%
Grey Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Grizzle and Irish White - 6%
Blue Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Grey Merle Grizzle and Irish White - 5%
Grey Merle Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Merle Grizzle and Irish White - 5%
Blue Merle Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Grey Merle and Irish White - 4%
Grey Merle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Merle and Irish White - 5%
Blue Merle and Piebald White - 2%
Double Merle and Irish White - 0%
Double Merle and Piebald White - 0%


*edited to bump up so Jeff sees it
 Simply
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8/16/2008 11:10:18 AM reply with quote send message to Simply Object to Post

Thanks, Chance.
And thanks to Shelgrace, too. ^.^

I know nothing of doggy genes, so I'll agree.


edit -- I'm okay with the added percentages as well. ^.^
 More N More Pups
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8/16/2008 11:33:02 AM reply with quote send message to More N More Pups Object to Post

I don't know much about the breed IRL either but from my brief stints of research this looks good to me. Thank you both for putting this together! happy :)
 Bluechip
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8/16/2008 12:29:31 PM reply with quote send message to Bluechip Object to Post

Looks good to me. Thanks to you both for taking the time to do this.

Sharalene
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 Harrys
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8/16/2008 1:26:01 PM reply with quote send message to Harrys Object to Post

Do you guys have any thoughts on percentages of the colors?
 Echo
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8/16/2008 8:17:20 PM reply with quote send message to Echo Object to Post

Thank you for doing this. What you have posted makes sense to me.

-Echo
 Sabrewolf
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8/16/2008 11:17:11 PM reply with quote send message to Sabrewolf Object to Post

Looks good to me too wink ;) Sorry I also know nothing about OES in RL, in fact I didn't know there was such a colour variety laugh :D

I'm happy with whatever you decide. Thank you both for all your hard work.
 Harrys
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8/29/2008 11:46:00 AM reply with quote send message to Harrys Object to Post

bumping up so Jeff will see it
 Harrys
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11/17/2008 5:56:59 AM reply with quote send message to Harrys Object to Post

bumping again for Jeff to see
 residential5
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7/25/2017 6:33:06 PM reply with quote send message to residential5 Object to Post

Bump
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posted by Harrys
Here is a proposal for the breeders to consider for OES colors. These are the acceptable colors per the AKC and all the other OES organizations I've looked at.
I asked Shelgrace to help with the genetic strings and in less than 24 hours I had it! How cool is that??? Huge thanks to Shelgrace for helping so much and so quickly. If you read the 'Sheltie colors' thread in the Sheltie breed forum you'll see why I'm so thrilled. Anyway, please post your thoughts one way or another so we can get it nailed down and posted to the Apha forum for Jeff.

Thanks,
Chance

Fixed at AA,EE,BB,and GG.
Genes that vary: K, D, M, S (sp/sp = Piebald makes the dog mostly white)

Grey and Irish White
K/K m/m D/D si/si
K/kbr m/m D/D si/si
K/K m/m D/d si/si
K/kbr m/m D/d si/si
K/K m/m D/D si/sp
K/kbr m/m D/D si/sp
K/K m/m D/d si/sp
K/kbr m/m D/d si/sp

Grey and Piebald White
K/K m/m D/D sp/sp
K/kbr m/m D/D sp/sp
K/K m/m D/d sp/sp
K/kbr m/m D/d sp/sp

Blue and Irish White
K/K m/m d/d si/si
K/kbr m/m d/d si/si
K/K m/m d/d si/sp
K/kbr m/m d/d si/sp

Blue and Piebald White
K/K m/m d/d sp/sp
K/kbr m/m d/d sp/sp

Grey Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr m/m D/D si/si
kbr/kbr m/m D/d si/si
kbr/kbr m/m D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr m/m D/d si/sp

Grey Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr m/m D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr m/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr m/m d/d si/si
kbr/kbr m/m d/d si/sp

Blue Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr m/m d/d sp/sp

Grey Merle Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr M/m D/D si/si
kbr/kbr M/m D/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/m D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr M/m D/d si/sp

Grey Merle Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr M/m D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Merle Grizzle and Irish White
kbr/kbr M/m d/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/m d/d si/sp

Blue Merle Grizzle and Piebald White
kbr/kbr M/m d/d sp/sp


Grey Merle and Irish White
K/K M/m D/D si/si
K/kbr M/m D/D si/si
K/K M/m D/d si/si
K/kbr M/m D/d si/si
K/K M/m D/D si/sp
K/kbr M/m D/D si/sp
K/K M/m D/d si/sp
K/kbr M/m D/d si/sp

Grey Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/m D/D sp/sp
K/kbr M/m D/D sp/sp
K/K M/m D/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/m D/d sp/sp

Blue Merle and Irish White
K/K M/m d/d si/si
K/kbr M/m d/d si/si
K/K M/m d/d si/sp
K/kbr M/m d/d si/sp

Blue Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/m d/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/m d/d sp/sp

Double Merle and Irish White
K/K M/M D/D si/si
K/K M/M D/d si/si
K/K M/M d/d si/si
K/Kbr M/M D/D si/si
K/kbr M/M D/d si/si
K/kbr M/M d/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/M D/D si/si
kbr/kbr M/M D/d si/si
kbr/kbr M/M d/d si/si
K/K M/M D/D si/sp
K/K M/M D/d si/sp
K/K M/M d/d si/sp
K/Kbr M/M D/D si/sp
K/kbr M/M D/d si/sp
K/kbr M/M d/d si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/D si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/d si/sp
kbr/kbr M/M d/d si/sp

Double Merle and Piebald White
K/K M/M D/D sp/sp
K/K M/M D/d sp/sp
K/K M/M d/d sp/sp
K/Kbr M/M D/D sp/sp
K/kbr M/M D/d sp/sp
K/kbr M/M d/d sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/D sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M D/d sp/sp
kbr/kbr M/M d/d sp/sp

*edited to add percentages

Grey and Irish White - 27%
Grey and Piebald White - 5%
Blue and Irish White - 20%
Blue and Piebald White - 3%
Grey Grizzle and Irish White - 8%
Grey Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Grizzle and Irish White - 6%
Blue Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Grey Merle Grizzle and Irish White - 5%
Grey Merle Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Merle Grizzle and Irish White - 5%
Blue Merle Grizzle and Piebald White - 2%
Grey Merle and Irish White - 4%
Grey Merle and Piebald White - 2%
Blue Merle and Irish White - 5%
Blue Merle and Piebald White - 2%
Double Merle and Irish White - 0%
Double Merle and Piebald White - 0%


*edited to bump up so Jeff sees it

 Rustic Dogs
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7/26/2017 7:49:35 AM reply with quote send message to Rustic Dogs Object to Post

That post was from 2008

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