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1/23/2014 7:45:18 PM reply with quote send message to admin Object to Post  

The link will show up on your My Account page later tonight under Miscellaneous.

In order to ensure that creating starter dogs doesn’t detract from buying/selling with other users, the cost of new starters depends on the breed.

If a breed has a lot of money floating around in it and 10 or more dogs currently for sale, the price can be quite high.

For breeds where there isn’t much money floating around and there aren’t many dogs for sale, the price can get very low. The lowest it can get for a breed with an average balance that is extremely low and no dogs for sale is $20.

You can choose the color of the starter dog by paying twice the price.

The prices will update nightly, here’s the current price list…

Affenpinscher 140.81
Afghan Hound 299.28
Airedale Terrier 200.00
Akita 438.63
Alaskan Klee Kai 200.00
Alaskan Malamute 479.42
American Cocker Spaniel 200.00
American Eskimo Dog 20.00
American Foxhound 200.00
American Staffordshire Terrier 329.52
American Water Spaniel 40.00
Anatolian Shepherd 98.01
Appenzeller Sennenhund 168.99
Argentine Dogo 200.00
Australian Cattle Dog 168.82
Australian Kelpie 263.45
Australian Shepherd 245.47
Australian Terrier 120.00
Azawakh 20.00
Basenji 200.00
Basset Hound 238.65
Beagle 106.41
Bearded Collie 225.50
Beauceron 181.05
Bedlington Terrier 20.00
Belgian Laekenois 307.36
Belgian Malinois 406.28
Belgian Sheepdog 60.00
Belgian Tervuren 40.00
Bergamasco 20.00
Bernese Mountain Dog 220.00
Bichon Frise 66.19
Black and Tan Coonhound 41.19
Black Russian Terrier 83.70
Bloodhound 20.00
Border Collie 200.00
Border Terrier 692.68
Borzoi 200.00
Boston Terrier 187.33
Bouvier des Flandres 449.52
Boxer 473.90
Briard 20.00
Brittany 20.00
Brussels Griffon 20.00
Bull Terrier 978.07
Bulldog 86.75
Bullmastiff 20.00
Cairn Terrier 499.24
Canaan Dog 20.00
Cane Corso 773.47
Cardigan Welsh Corgi 20.00
Caucasian Mountain Dog 400.69
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel 616.53
Chesapeake Bay Retriever 533.34
Chihuahua 618.34
Chinese Crested Dog 251.93
Chinese Shar-Pei 200.00
Chow Chow 482.85
Clumber Spaniel 162.58
Collie 540.14
Curly-Coated Retriever 705.28
Dachshund 600.36
Dalmatian 917.43
Dandie Dinmont Terrier 60.00
Doberman Pinscher 509.19
Dogue de Bordeaux 20.00
English Cocker Spaniel 53.88
English Foxhound 85.20
English Setter 878.16
English Springer Spaniel 619.76
English Toy Spaniel 189.16
Estrela Mountain Dog 306.86
Field Spaniel 333.11
Finnish Spitz 200.00
Flat-Coated Retriever 61.50
French Bulldog 320.78
German Pinscher 645.28
German Shepherd Dog 378.38
German Shorthaired Pointer 40.00
German Spitz 122.05
German Wirehaired Pointer 202.11
Giant Schnauzer 20.00
Glen of Imaal Terrier 20.00
Golden Retriever 350.59
Gordon Setter 89.49
Grand Basset Griffon Vendéen 24.02
Great Dane 235.33
Great Pyrenees 182.44
Greater Swiss Mountain Dog 602.46
Greyhound 164.19
Harrier 200.00
Havanese 104.14
Ibizan Hound 60.00
Irish Red and White Setter 413.94
Irish Setter 200.00
Irish Terrier 200.00
Irish Water Spaniel 415.29
Irish Wolfhound 91.28
Italian Greyhound 50.81
Jack Russell Terrier 140.00
Japanese Chin 109.85
Keeshond 158.37
Kerry Blue Terrier 105.12
Komondor 187.19
Kooikerhondje 20.00
Kuvasz 20.00
Labrador Retriever 579.42
Lagotto Romagnolo 20.00
Lakeland Terrier 20.48
Leonberger 20.00
Lhasa Apso 549.66
Lowchen 757.74
Maltese 150.29
Manchester Terrier 20.00
Manchester Toy Terrier 20.00
Mastiff 763.25
Miniature Bull Terrier 42.60
Miniature Pinscher 649.57
Miniature Poodle 457.99
Miniature Schnauzer 191.61
Mudi 20.00
Neapolitan Mastiff 609.74
Newfoundland 134.40
Norfolk Terrier 100.00
Norwegian Buhund 60.00
Norwegian Elkhound 109.17
Norwich Terrier 120.00
Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever 60.00
Old English Sheepdog 31.81
Otterhound 21.42
Papillon 624.22
Pekingese 120.00
Pembroke Welsh Corgi 172.36
Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen 23.05
Pharaoh Hound 200.00
Plott 40.00
Pointer 200.00
Polish Lowland Sheepdog 118.04
Pomeranian 289.14
Portuguese Podengo 200.00
Portuguese Pointer 414.57
Portuguese Water Dog 357.75
Pug 20.00
Puli 85.79
Pumi 144.06
Pyrenean Shepherd 289.48
Rat Terrier 60.00
Redbone Coonhound 40.00
Rhodesian Ridgeback 315.03
Rottweiler 606.87
Saint Bernard 332.98
Saluki 20.00
Samoyed 20.00
Schipperke 226.78
Scottish Deerhound 80.00
Scottish Terrier 20.00
Sealyham Terrier 140.00
Shetland Sheepdog 450.52
Shiba Inu 20.00
Shih Tzu 282.56
Siberian Husky 609.23
Silky Terrier 72.56
Skye Terrier 20.00
Smooth Fox Terrier 100.00
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier 248.86
South African Boerboel 20.00
Spanish Water Dog 20.00
Spinone Italiano 89.15
Staffordshire Bull Terrier 777.53
Standard Poodle 200.00
Standard Schnauzer 517.32
Sussex Spaniel 80.00
Swedish Vallhund 20.00
Thai Ridgeback 283.75
Tibetan Mastiff 140.36
Tibetan Spaniel 101.42
Tibetan Terrier 20.00
Toy Fox Terrier 234.07
Toy Poodle 333.94
Vizsla 73.38
Weimaraner 112.09
Welsh Springer Spaniel 686.13
Welsh Terrier 56.69
West Highland White Terrier 20.00
Whippet 20.00
Wire Fox Terrier 20.00
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon 144.81
Yorkshire Terrier 20.00
 Fourlorn
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1/23/2014 8:12:41 PM reply with quote send message to Fourlorn Object to Post

OH!! I love this idea!! Great Jeff!!!
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 Laffy-Taffy Kennels
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1/23/2014 9:12:50 PM reply with quote send message to Laffy-Taffy Kennels Object to Post

This is awesome! Thanks a million wink ;)

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1/23/2014 9:18:03 PM reply with quote send message to Fourlorn Object to Post

Ok, so let me verify. This means anyone can purchase starters now, regardless of if they have starters available, right?
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1/23/2014 9:21:40 PM reply with quote send message to admin Object to Post

Yes.
 linlin23
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1/23/2014 9:44:35 PM reply with quote send message to linlin23 Object to Post

Cool, thank you so much Jeff!
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1/23/2014 9:47:53 PM reply with quote send message to Mellenacht Object to Post

Brilliant Jeff, thanks!!
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1/23/2014 9:47:59 PM reply with quote send message to Mellenacht Object to Post

Brilliant Jeff, thanks!!
 Europa Black
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1/24/2014 10:48:44 AM reply with quote send message to Europa Black Object to Post

Ohh! This is brilliant addition! Thank you very much!!
 gaylanstudio
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1/24/2014 12:09:21 PM reply with quote send message to gaylanstudio Object to Post

Looks good to me.

So anyone wanna buy a few unmade regular starters - any breed, no colour guarantee?

I've still got a few of the old-starters left here and there.
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1/24/2014 1:35:43 PM reply with quote send message to Peppertree Object to Post

This is ridiculous. I would have to pay over $700 to create one Cane Corso starter dog? It shouldn't be about how many dogs are in the breed if you are creating source dogs to help with the unequal distribution of COLOR. Wow, so unhappy with how you handled this.
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1/24/2014 3:20:12 PM reply with quote send message to Nachthunde Object to Post

Thanks this is great!!
 Solar Wind Kennels
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1/24/2014 4:54:45 PM reply with quote send message to Solar Wind Kennels Object to Post

Jeff -

Is the influence of # of dogs for sale affecting the formula a little more than it needs to?

Peppertree -

Take your current dogs for sale off the sales board for the evening and see if the price for Cane corsos will drop then put them back up after you get your starters.

Will
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1/24/2014 4:55:22 PM reply with quote send message to Solar Wind Kennels Object to Post

And thanks Jeff for adding this... I find it fantastic!

Will
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1/24/2014 7:17:36 PM reply with quote send message to Summerwind Kennels Object to Post

Love it! This is a brilliant way to do this! I've recently started thinking about color breeding in a couple different breeds and the colors I want are totally missing, so I'm super excited about this!

Another huge Thank You Jeff!
 Selma Kennel
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1/24/2014 7:46:18 PM reply with quote send message to Selma Kennel Object to Post

Oh! This is such a great idea!
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1/24/2014 11:18:58 PM reply with quote send message to Fourlorn Object to Post

Jeff,
I am not entirely sure how you feel about this or the consequences to making the change, but would it be possible to maybe change the purchased starter's ages?

I know right now, they are 25 days old for a purchased starter. I personally feel, with the money we are paying, that we should be able to get them at 30 days? I could be wrong in my thinking, please correct me if I am. happy :)

-Four
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1/24/2014 11:56:00 PM reply with quote send message to Rosemallow Object to Post

Not to be a debby downer, as I know this is a tool many people have been longing for pretty much since the implementation of colors, if not longer. However, the way this works financially is just ludicrous, in my honest opinion.

Why was there a minimum price set for low count breeds, but not a maximum?

$978 for a Bull Terrier
$917 for a Dalmation
$878 for an English Setter

Those are just 3 examples of how incredibly useless this tool becomes once you realize you have interest in a popular breed.

1st - This tool is going to be used primarily, if not exclusively by color breeders (which would need to pay TWICE the listed amount to get the color they need). Even if you are EXTREMELY wealthy ($15k seems to be the most anyone ever talks about), you couldn't even begin to afford to start a color breeding program (which will likely return you no money for a loooong while) if you're interested in a even semi-popular breed.

This is just... a humongous flaw in this system, in my opinion. I'm not sure if this is a not-so-inadvertent way of keeping the basic starter sales in business, but either way it looks rather disappointing on paper.



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1/25/2014 6:06:14 AM reply with quote send message to Kalynda Object to Post

Must be some RICH kennels hanging around in some of these breeds!

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