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Author Topic : What percentage of new judges should be "owner/handler"?
 admin
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7/6/2016 8:31:41 AM reply with quote send message to admin Object to Post   

It's been 15% (15% chance for each one) since we implemented the current judge algorithm.
What percentage of new judges should be "owner/handler"?
30 38.27%
15 19.39%
40 32.65%
50 9.69%
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 Rossett Spaniels
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7/6/2016 11:54:37 AM reply with quote send message to Rossett Spaniels Object to Post

40%
 BarStar Border Collies
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7/6/2016 4:08:05 PM reply with quote send message to BarStar Border Collies Object to Post

Thank you Jeff for looking into fixing this issue.

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 Chaos and Havoc
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7/7/2016 3:55:36 AM reply with quote send message to Chaos and Havoc Object to Post

I think 30-40% would be better than 15%
 Studio Dogs
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7/7/2016 9:14:18 AM reply with quote send message to Studio Dogs Object to Post

Could you lower the percentage of dog over bitche preference too please.
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7/7/2016 2:31:29 PM reply with quote send message to Eremitage Object to Post

Oh yeah; one more vote for more gender equality - plz give us less judges preferring dogs.

Also, I'm all for slightly more owner judges, 25-30% would be perfect.
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7/7/2016 4:30:40 PM reply with quote send message to Hart Park Object to Post

I think raising the owner handler judges will just drive up show participation and activity in breeds.
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7/8/2016 8:51:48 AM reply with quote send message to admin Object to Post

Going with 33%.

30% got the most votes.

The "average" came out to 32.3%.

33% is a nice round fraction.
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7/8/2016 10:06:01 AM reply with quote send message to gaylanstudio Object to Post

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Thumbs up for this!

In real life there are many owner handlers, many of them breeders with more years experience than some of the pro handlers.

I too believe that this will encourage more participation.

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7/8/2016 1:37:47 PM reply with quote send message to admin Object to Post

I've explained this a few times but the difference is that in real life you have to learn to become an owner/handler.

On here it just removes one aspect of the strategy/tactics of the game.
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7/9/2016 12:41:37 AM reply with quote send message to PixelPups Object to Post

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Yeah, right now I am more annoyed by how many the judges prefer dogs over bitches than I am by how many owner-handler judges there are.

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 Kalynda
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7/9/2016 5:57:26 AM reply with quote send message to Kalynda Object to Post

Another vote to equalize or reduce the gender preference - it's way out of whack.
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7/9/2016 9:36:16 AM reply with quote send message to Summerwind Kennels Object to Post

Not sure what the % is right now, but maybe the % of judges who have a gender preference should only be like 10-15%?

In real life, I've never encountered too many who had a very strong gender preference and those that did typically favoured the bitches...lol
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7/9/2016 9:48:35 AM reply with quote send message to BarStar GSD Object to Post

I think a fair percentage preference for it could be... 15 Male 15 Female 70 Neutral....

20-20-60 wouldn't be bad either...

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7/9/2016 4:23:17 PM reply with quote send message to Kalynda Object to Post

I think the issue is that right now all but one of the gender preference judges prefer males.

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7/10/2016 1:05:31 PM reply with quote send message to Beach Dunes Object to Post

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I think the issue is that right now all but one of the gender preference judges prefer males.

K

Agreed
 Halcyon Dreams
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7/10/2016 3:06:59 PM reply with quote send message to Halcyon Dreams Object to Post

Also agreed
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7/12/2016 6:10:27 PM reply with quote send message to gaylanstudio Object to Post

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I do agree that if we are to have a gender bias it should be closer to even.

Remember, if the judge is doing his/her job this should only come into play when both dogs are equal or so near that the judge is unable to make a decision - a tie-breaker, so that even 50/50 would work.

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 Rollos Kennels
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7/13/2016 2:28:40 PM reply with quote send message to Rollos Kennels Object to Post

What would really be helpful is a "Owner Handler" option on the handler list that would work the same as not choosing a handler. That way I know that ones supposed to be owner handler instead of guessing if I need to pick a handler for that event.

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