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Just got back on SD and am looking to start breeding again...sure hope this doesn't happen to me..yikes.

Having same problem very mediocre puppies or really bad puppies lucky if I get 1 or 2 nice ones nothing outstanding at all ????

I go through times in all my breeds where it seems like every litter born is average to poor quality. FHing whole litters more often than I would like. To be honest I don't put much strategy into planning matings... when a bitch is ready to breed I find a stud that either improves certain traits, is a certain colour, or produces an acceptable COI (in rarer breeds). I don't usually breed simply hoping for higher SOP.

Also, don't completely disregard your ugly duckling puppies! Sometimes dogs that are "worse" than their parents will actually produce puppies better than their parents.

Still sometimes I despair too... I often get fed up with my Siberian kennel, but rather than dumping them I switch focus to colour breeding, or pick up a 2nd breed. Then, after you have persevered through all those bad litters, it makes it so much more rewarding when a nice puppy does come along!

Just remember folks that show shine can be kind of random and not *totally* hereditary. So yes, you can still get pups with crappy SS even from a pedigree with all 20 SS. There is an element of truth to this, as not all dogs are showy or like to show. And being flashy is an important element of RL dog showing. Some dogs have *IT* and some don't.

My puppies today are poor quality

My puppies today are poor quality

I'm still getting enough good puppies to show in all kennels, but improving a particular trait has become more difficult for me. When the only pups with the traits you have bred the litter for, all have very low show shine.
It's just frustrating, rather than challenging!

Well, I haven't bred too much lately but they all seem to be within a reasonable range. Perhaps too many boys and not enough nice girls.

Well, just had a litter born and I got a bunch of decent males, but no good females...wound up FHing all females :C

All puppies are just average just below acceptable quality. None really showable. Or all FH most the entire litters. I am really getting bummed out.

I would even be happy with one great puppy. Only one in a bunch of litters can't remember how many litters I have FH.

Just got that one - he will sustain me for a while in a whole range of kennels.

I'm having the exact same problem. I've got 10 litters due just to try and get maybe a few good puppies

Just had seven litters born from current winning studs and quality bitches, only one is a little better than its dam, none competitive. So disappointing, flooded with terrible show shine from dogs with all 20 in the pedigree. Some of the bitches had thrown VH SOP regularly. Now I don't know which to keep to try again.
I'm running out of class males to show, as have not bred any competitive males for weeks and have spent hundreds on stud fees.
Gutted

I feel for ya all.

Most of my kennels are in a rebuilding phase so my expectations are low. Lol.

It used to be that in a litter of also rans that there was usually one showable one, or even a star. In another kennel, several breedings of two approx 96.70 parents are giving me many 96.10-96.30 with the odd 96.50, though that could be because I am using new lines that I "don't know" with 0% or very low C/O breedings.
I'm not posting to complain really, just can't see a pattern in this!