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Author Topic : Basic Abuse In Curlies - Standard Using Basics To Cheat
 BarStar Goldens
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8/29/2017 8:41:46 AM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post   

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Hey Jeff,

Studios in Curlies is putting up dogs for sale on approval for $1k. Promptly, buying them in their basics afterwards.

Today, Studios sold several dogs to their basics Calabro JF K and Newark.

Can something be put in place to prevent this cheating from happening?

The users have been using basics to cheat for months in this breed and its getting really tiresome.

Will

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 BarStar Goldens
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8/29/2017 8:43:29 AM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post

Reasonable prices sales to Basics do not bug me... but when they are funneling money from basics it's a little annoying.

AND - using basics to stuff shows and greatly raise the requirements for majors is even more annoying.

Thanks
Will
 Kleenex Kennels 4
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8/29/2017 1:50:08 PM reply with quote send message to Kleenex Kennels 4 Object to Post

ruins the breed don't it, that part of the game i did not miss. just picking up some of my old lineage in goldens and starting a couple curlies in this kennel. never saw the need to cheat.....any help much appreciated
 Nearco
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8/30/2017 2:58:16 AM reply with quote send message to Nearco Object to Post

Calabro JF K and Newark have done this in the past with other breeds, and its not fair to the rest of us not to mention that their tactics are obvious cheating.
Look up JF K old posts and you can see.
 Kalynda
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8/30/2017 7:36:24 AM reply with quote send message to Kalynda Object to Post

Wow - someone must be leading a terribly miserable life to find joy in cheating on ShowDog....

Didn't there used to be a script where Jeff would find the multiple basics?

Hope it's fixed - not fair to the breed or the game.

K
 SilknT
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8/31/2017 4:10:28 PM reply with quote send message to SilknT Object to Post

This person/group has been in two of my breeds and both breeds are now slowly recovering.

Thought Jeff had banned them, but obviously not.

Oh - expect some abuse in this forum from him/her/them as he/she/they don't like criticism.
 BarStar Goldens
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8/31/2017 8:58:46 PM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post

Yeah, I believe all the basics in the breed are run by the same person.

Will
 Lumen
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8/31/2017 10:24:02 PM reply with quote send message to Lumen Object to Post

Are they also associated with MacArthur/Republic?
 Arial Eve
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9/2/2017 2:36:04 PM reply with quote send message to Arial Eve Object to Post

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Are they also associated with MacArthur/Republic?
And Laguardia?
 Zinga
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9/2/2017 5:26:05 PM reply with quote send message to Zinga Object to Post

La Guardia was part of the original 2 (with JFK), so definitely La Guardia.
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9/2/2017 6:14:39 PM reply with quote send message to Crosscroft Object to Post

It appears (to me at least) that MacArthur/Republic are also involved in this ring... both kennels own several curlies from "Studios" the premium kennel. They both were involved in engies for a time..
 Comet Poodles
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9/2/2017 8:38:53 PM reply with quote send message to Comet Poodles Object to Post

I like how this person is using all New York area airports as their sham kennel names.
 Kalynda
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9/3/2017 10:56:38 AM reply with quote send message to Kalynda Object to Post

So just in this thread, I see 6 basics and one premium?

Jeff???

 BarStar Goldens
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9/3/2017 10:25:46 PM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post

*shrugs*

And the user has moved all their studs to basics and have zero adult males in the standard.

Will
 Crosscroft
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9/3/2017 10:45:24 PM reply with quote send message to Crosscroft Object to Post

Yikes. That's bad. If I was in curlies I would leave if this problem wasn't resolved. Hope Jeff gets this fixed soon.

This same person didn't pull these tactics in ECS, but would enter ALL of their dogs (as in like, 30) and put handlers on ALL of them. I messaged asking if they could just put handlers on a handful of the dogs so that myself and other ECS breeders could enter and compete. They never followed through. This also drove up the amount of dogs needed for a major.
 Lisboa
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 Rivacre Gundogs
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9/4/2017 2:49:17 AM reply with quote send message to Rivacre Gundogs Object to Post

They must lead a pretty sad life if they feel the need to cheat on a game!
 Glittering
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9/4/2017 5:57:27 AM reply with quote send message to Glittering Object to Post

Hi Crosscroft

I nearly left both Kooikers and WPGs over this player(s).

Fortunately the player tripped over the line at that point and Jeff either banned (short term) or threatened to ban, and player went elsewhere.

Obviously to Curlies.
 BarStar Goldens
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9/4/2017 10:37:57 AM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post

Well, We've been in the breed since 2003 so no chance of us leaving. wink ;)

Will
 Nearco
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9/5/2017 4:38:03 AM reply with quote send message to Nearco Object to Post

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I find this very strange....Selling your best boy to a Basic...

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=15869182

Hmmmmm

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 BarStar Goldens
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9/5/2017 5:58:58 AM reply with quote send message to BarStar Goldens Object to Post

Kleenex is a newer standard kennel. I don't think there is a connection. Did you link the right dog?

Will

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