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 Marchen Terriers
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7/29/2008 11:19:56 PM reply with quote send message to Marchen Terriers Object to Post   

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A Locus
A - Solid
at - Tan Points

B Locus
B - Black
b - Liver

C Locus
C - Normal
cch - Diluted (Only affects brown)

G Locus
G - Black Greys to Blue

Blue
AABBCCGG
AABbCCGG
AatBBCCGG
AatBbCCGG
AABBCcchGG
AABbCcchGG
AatBBCcchGG
AatBbCcchGG
AABBcchcchGG
AABbcchcchGG
AatBBcchcchGG
AatBbcchcchGG

Blue & Tan
atatBBCCGG
atatBbCCGG
atatBBCcchGG
atatBbCcchGG
atatBBcchcchGG
atatBbcchcchGG

Liver
AAbbCCGG
AatbbCCGG
AAbbCcchGG
AatbbCcchGG

Liver & Tan
atatbbCCGG
atatbbCcchGG

Sandy
AAbbcchcchGG
AatbbcchcchGG

Sandy & Tan
atatbbcchcchGG

Edited to correct sandy coloring.
 LAMZ-Bedlies
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8/27/2008 12:29:56 PM reply with quote send message to LAMZ-Bedlies Object to Post

That looks good for the most part as far as liver and blue are concerned, but Sandy is not really a yellow coat (such as in a yellow lab). Maybe I'm just missing something as far as yellow/red genes on the A locus are concerned, but to my knowledge the yellow/red coloration doesn't exist in this breed. Sandies are born just ever so *slightly* less dark brown than the livers and they have a liver nose/amber eyes just as the livers do, although sandies sometimes have slightly lighter eyes. They have the greying gene on the G locus, so they lighten in the same way as all of the other colors. They are genetically (pretty much) the same. So a sandy wouldn't be genetically black on the B locus, it would be genetically liver. The Sandy and Tan's are not fully tan, they look pretty much the same as liver and tan.

Since the game can't really distinguish shades of a color when the genetics is the same(I don't think so anyway?) Sandy should probably be left out of this breed's coloration here. Unless there is a way to distinguish between the dark liver and light liver(sandy) coloration.

So the genetics without the ay gene:

A Locus
A - Solid
at - Tan Points

B Locus
B - Black
b - Liver

G Locus
G - Black Greys to Blue

Blue
AABBGG
AABbGG
AatBBGG
AatBbGG

Blue & Tan
atatBBGG
atatBbGG

Liver
AAbbGG
AatbbGG

Liver & Tan
atatbbGG

Then if there is a way to distinguish between sandies and livers with the same genetics:

Sandy
AAbbGG
AatbbGG

Sandy & Tan
atatbbGG
 Marchen Terriers
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8/27/2008 11:56:32 PM reply with quote send message to Marchen Terriers Object to Post

Thanks for pointing that out. I corrected my model. The chinchilla gene (cch) is believed to cause the brown to lighten shades. It has not been confirmed, but for the purposes of this game it will work all the same. It would also technically give some of the Blue and Tan's a cream color instead of Tan. Do you want that separated to Blue and Cream? Or left as Blue and Tan?
 LAMZ-Bedlies
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8/28/2008 9:59:44 AM reply with quote send message to LAMZ-Bedlies Object to Post

I would keep it as blue & tan. From the blue & tans I've seen in RL all of them were a rich dark tan, not really a cream (until the greying gene shows, of course). The tan points on the bedlies are usually grown out to near white by just a few months old(while the blue coat takes longer to change), so it's hard to tell which would be blue & tans and which may have cream ponits since they change coat so fast.
 Marchen Terriers
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8/28/2008 10:32:49 PM reply with quote send message to Marchen Terriers Object to Post

Ok no problem. Once again thank you for bringing that up.

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