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| Asian Wonders Basic User Posts : 184  |
Ok since other dog breeds are getting color I think we should too.
I have a list of Akita Colors we should add, if you have any more please post. I also need someone to do the genetic make up/percentages- I hopeless at the kind of stuff. Color: -Red & White (Black Masked Red, Self Masked Red, White Faced Red) -Fawn (includes Silver Fawn, Golden Fawn, & Fawn with black overlay) -Fawn Pinto -Black & White -Brindle (Fawn Brindle, Black Brindle, & Red Brindle) -White -Silver, black overlay -Brown with white markings -Hood, Split Mask, Etching/Edging I got some color info on www.akitacentral.net/colors/ |
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| Asian Wonders Basic User Posts : 184 |
So I guess no one wants color or even wants to try to get color...  What do you guys thing is the most common Akita color? I think its Fawn or Fawn Pinto. But I have no real life experience with the breed. And if any one knows the genetic coding I would really appreciate the help!  |
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| Templar Knights Basic User Posts : 3,000+ |
According to current AKC guidelines, Akitas come in these colors: Black Brown Brindle Brown, Black Overlay Fawn Fawn, Black Overlay Red Red, Black Overlay Silver, Black Overlay White Black Brindle Black, Brown Undercoat Black, Fawn Undercoat Black, Red Undercoat Black, Silver Undercoat Brown Fawn Brindle Red Brindle Silver Silver Brindle White, Red Shading with these markings: Black Mask, White Markings Blk & White Mask White Markngs Pinto, Black & White Mask Pinto, Black Mask White Mask, White Markings Black Mask Pinto White Markings White Mask |
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| TeeKay Shar Pei Basic User Posts : 322 |
I too would love to see colors implemented in Akitas. the only problem is it is Greek to me! If anyone is willing to try to work the percentages and coding out, more power to them! i wish I had a clue....Tracey |
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| KastuMotos Basic User Posts : 2 |
It's very hard because there are so many different colored Akitas....plus what ever is in that bloodline.....so a pure white breed to a pure white akita could make any of the colors from the AKC guidelines!!! Good Luck!!! |
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| Red Ink Kennels Basic User Posts : 30 |
I've watched what they've been doing in the Alaskan Malamutes and I think it'd probably be easier on all of us to go that route with all the colors we have. Kimoko in Mals worked hard on making the list of colors smaller in order to make it easier on Jeff. I'm not sure how to do all the precentages and such but probably limiting it to the basic colors and patterns would be easiest for Jeff to implement. Its hard though, and I don't know the breed in RL only on SD. Liz @ HOW and Red Ink |
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| Asian Wonders Basic User Posts : 184 |
I also have no experience of the breed in RL, and all the genetic stuff is greek to me! Maybe we should only add Brindle, Fawn, Pinto, Red, and White. |
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| Templar Knights Basic User Posts : 3,000+ |
www.sherob.com/info/spots/spots.pdf Can anyone make sense of that? I am not a biolagy person so this makes little sense to me. But maybe someone that knows a little can simplify it enough to get colors added? |
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| House of Wolves Kennels Basic User Posts : 500+ |
ETA: Genetic Models. quoteI think we should pick the coat colors that we HAVE to have, the most common and perhaps one of the least common ones. Colors that can be bred that would produce those colors. For instance (going by what I know with Pei in RL) most fawns can throw any color. Silver is the rarest in my real breed, and I haven't seen many akitas with it, so that would in my mind be harder to get. Brindles are fairly common from what I've seen. And I don't think Jeff is doing markings just yet. I messed around and wanted to show you all what I did. It could be wrong...actually I'm sure some of it is. I took basic color models from several color genetics pages. I can post them if you all are interested. And this is what I came up with: A Locus ay - Red Tinted Colors at - color with overlay of black A - Black/White B Locus bb - Brown br - No Brindle BR/Br - Brindle bbR - brown with brindling C Locus C- Full color ch - dilutes/overlays D Locus dd - Silver E Locus Ee/EE - Black Mask ee - No Mask FAWNS Fawn: ayaybrbrCCDDee ayaybrbrCCDdEE ayaybrbrCCDDEE ayaybrbrCCDDEe ayaybrbrCCDdEe ayaybrbrCCDdee Fawn Brindle: ayayBRbrchchDDee ayayBRBRchchDDEe ayayBRBRchchDdee ayayBRBRchchDdEe ayayBrbrchchDDEE ayayBRbrchchDdEE Fawn with Black Overlay: atatbrbrchchDDee atatbrbrchchDdee atatbrbrchchDDEE atatbrbrchchDDEe atatbrbrchchDdEE atatbrbrchchDdEe REDS Red: ayaybrbrCCDDee ayaybrbrCCDDEe ayaybrbrCCDDEE ayaybrbrCCDdee ayaybrbrCCDdEe ayaybrbrCCDdEE ayaybrbrCchDdEe ayaybrbrCchDdee ayaybrbrCchDdEE ayaybrbrCchDDEE ayaybrbrCchDDEe ayaybrbrCchDDee Red Brindle: ayayBRbrchchDDEe ayayBRBRchchDDee ayayBRbrchchDDEE ayayBRBRchchDDEe ayayBRBRchchDDEE ayayBRbrchchDDee ayayBRbrchchDdEE ayayBRBRchchDdEE ayayBRbrchchDdee ayayBRBRchchDdee ayayBRbrchchDdEe ayayBRBRchchDdEe Red with Black Overlay: atatbrbrchchDDee atatbrbrchchDdee atatbrbrchchDDEE atatbrbrchchDDEe atatbrbrchchDdEe atatbrbrchchDdEE SILVERS Silver: ayaybrbrCCddee ayaybrbrCCddEe ayaybrbrCCddEE ayaybrbrCchddee ayaybrbrCchEe ayaybrbrCchddEE Silver with Black Overlay: atatbrbrchchddee atatbrbrchchddEE atatbrbrchchddEe Silver Brindle: ayayBRbrchchddee ayayBRBRchchddee ayayBRbrchchddEE ayayBRBRchchddEE ayayBRbrchchddEe ayayBRBRchchEe BLACKS Black: AAbrbrCCDDEE AAbrbrCCDdEE AAbrbrCCDDEe AAbrbrCCDdEe AAbrbrCCDDee AAbrbrCCDdee Black Brindle: AABRbrchchDDEE AABRBRchchDDEE AABRbrchchDdEE AABRBRchchDdEE AABRbrchchDDEe AABRBRchchDDEe AABRbrchchDdEe AABRBRchchDDEe AABRbrchchDDee AABRBRchchDDee AABRbrchchDdee AABRBRchchDdee BROWNS Brown: AAbbbbCCDDEE AAbbbbCCDdEE AAbbbbCCDDEe AAbbbbCCDdEe AAbbbbCCDDee AAbbbbCCDdee AAbbbbCchDDEE AAbbbbCchDdEE AAbbbbCchDDEe AAbbbbCchDdEe AAbbbbCchDDee AAbbbbCchDdee Brown Brindle: AAbbRbbRchchDDee AAbbRbbRchchDDEe AAbbRbbRchchDDEE AAbbRbbRchchDdEE AAbbRbbRchchDdEe AAbbRbbRchchDdee WHITES White: AAbrbrCCDDee White with Red Overlay: atatbrbrchchDDee I know that Black and Silver Brindle are the rarest colors. Other than that I know very little color wise. What do you all think? |
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| Alpha and Omega Kennels Basic User Posts : 154 |
no idea re colour genetics here, I'll go along with whatever the majority decides. |
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| Sakura Japanese Dogs Basic User Posts : 180 |
I'll abstain and go with the majority |
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| Templar Knights Basic User Posts : 3,000+ |
I agree that simplyfing the color model would be best for programming and breeding in general. I don't know enough about genetics to figure it out but from what I can tell the model HOW created seems right. |
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| california dreamin Basic User Posts : 40 |
I think we should go w/ the model HOW has come with!!! |
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| Asian Wonders Basic User Posts : 184 |
I agree with going with the model made by HOW |
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| TeeKay Shar Pei Basic User Posts : 322 |
Majority rules for me as well since this all looks like chicken-scratching to me...lol! Lets "Git R Done" I cant wait for colors. tracey ~TKSP~ |
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| Northern Lights Siberians Basic User Posts : 500+ |
I agree with the majority too. I'm clueless about these color genetics. Mikado Akitas |
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| House of Wolves Kennels Basic User Posts : 500+ |
We need to decide on percentages as well, do you all have any ideas on that? |
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| TeeKay Shar Pei Basic User Posts : 322 |
Well in Chows we agreed to an even split of color. Seems to work out ok. I wouldnt mind throwing in the rare colors though at a lower percentage so that if you really had a rare dog, it may be in high demand for breeding. Just my thought. Tracey |
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| Templar Knights Basic User Posts : 3,000+ |
Here is what I think the percentages should be: Fawn 9% Fawn Brindle 9% Fawn With Black Overlay 9% Red 9% Red Brindle 9% Red With Black Overlay 9% Silver 3% Silver Brindle 3% Silver With Black Overlay 3% Black 3% Black Brindle 3% Brown 9% Brown Brindle 9% White 9% White With Red Overlay 9% |
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| Asian Wonders Basic User Posts : 184 |
I like it |
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| TeeKay Shar Pei Basic User Posts : 322 |
Lets do it!! Looks perfect to me. |
7/20/2008 10:13:57 AM
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