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I haven't found a breed that makes me want to really dedicate myself to them yet. I have even having fun with Buhunds but not enough. Same with Aussies.

Looking for a breed that's not "too competitive" but still gets regular group placements. Show placements would be a huge plus.

Friendly breeders with studs not over priced.

Breeders who are willing to loan out some broodies to get me started and have a male and bitch puppy that is specials quality. A bitch puppy that could get its grand would be a plus.

Not too high on SOP, I'd like to be able to see improvements.

I've already tried Otterhounds, Kerry Blues and Smooth Fox Terriers. Already emailed to try and get some GWPs.

MudBugs

Keeshonds meet all your qualifications. Come on over to our thread if you like and we'll hook you up to get ya started.

Tibetan Terriers sound like they would fit your needs! I'm just starting out but the two breeders I've chatted with are super nice! Plus they get BIS!

Asked for more info on the Kees.

Ive looked into Tibetans but dont think they are for me right now.

MudBugs

Come check out collies and Shelties!

I second Alibi's suggestion! Collies are just the right amount of competitive and do get regular group placements. Breeders are friendly and there are usually nice pups for sale.

What is the average SOP for Collies and what is the high?

Any more suggestions?

MudBugs

I just bred a 94.5 and a 94.6 and it looks like new pups are ranging from 94.2 - 94.7. Alibi and Image Bostons always have nice pups and 94.2 and up are finishable. My top dog right now is 94.35 and he is getting a decent amount of group wins.