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 gaylanstudio
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Re-posting this so it doesn't get lost. If anyone notices this getting near the bottom, please boost in case I forget.

K Locus – (Kb, ky)
A Locus – (Ay,at,a)
B Locus (B, b)
C Locus (C, cch, ce)
E Locus (E, e)
S Locus (S, sp)


Black

Black 17%
(KK,Kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)
(kk)(aa)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

Black & Tan 5%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

ASCOB

Brown 10%
(KK, Kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)
(kk)(aa)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

Brown & Tan 5%
(kk)(atat,ata)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

Buff 20%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(cchcch,cchce)(ee)(SS,Ssp)
(kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya)(BB,Bb,bb)(cchcch,cchce)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

Red 4%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce)(ee)(SS,Ssp)

Silver 5%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(cece)(ee)(SS,Ssp)

Sable 3%
(kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(SS,Ssp)

Parti Color

Black & White 6%
(KK, Kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)
(kk)(aa)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)

Black White & Tan 5%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)

Brown & White 5%
(KK, Kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)
(kk)(aa)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)

Brown White & Tan 4%
(kk)(atat,ata)(bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)

Buff & White 2%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(cchcch,cchce)(ee)(spsp)

Red & White 5%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce)(ee)(spsp)

Silver & White 2%
(KK,Kk,kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya,atat,ata,aa)(BB,Bb,bb)(cece)(ee)(spsp)

Sable & White 2%
(kk)(AyAy,Ayat,Aya)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce,cchcch,cchce,cece)(EE,Ee)(spsp)


Had to be added to account for missing codes. Set at 0% of starter dogs:

Buff Bi-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(cchcch,cchce)(ee)(SS,Ssp)

Buff Tri-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(cchcch,cchce)(ee)(spsp)

Red Bi-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce)(ee)(SS,Ssp)

Red Tri-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(CC,Ccch,Cce)(ee)(spsp)

Silver Bi-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(cece)(ee)(SS,Ssp)

Silver Tri-Color – 0%
(kk)(atat,ata)(BB,Bb,bb)(cece)(ee)(spsp)
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Hi. What does this mean?

Specifically, I was wondering if this might answer a question I had about Field Spaniel colors. Is it possible to breed Liver Tri, Black Tri, Liver Bi, or Black Tri with a sire who is not one of those colors?

https://www.showdog.com/breeds/genetics.aspx?breed=Field+Spaniel
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Historically Field Spaniels have the same roots as Springers and Cockers so the genetics are similar.

So, basically you are asking if you could get an any-colour-with-white from an any-colour-without-white.

The answer is - possibly.

The gene that produces the white is a recessive - both sire and dam must carry that recessive. If you look at the parents and grandparents of the prospective sire and dam you can get a good idea of whether they are likely to carry the parti-colour gene (sp in the above discussion).

The liver and tan bitch you have probably does not carry this gene - she is most likely S/S.

The sire of your litter appears the same - the pedigrees are all solid colours and the lack of any white in that litter is to be expected.

Now, it is possible that one or even both carry the recessive sp but its not likely.

You have four parti starter girls. Breed them all to that stud. You will still probably not get a parti but ALL of those pups will carry the parti gene - they will be S/sp.

Breed those pups together and you should get some partis - about 1 in very 4. Keep those partis and breed your solid girl to one of them.

(I'm assuming the breed has lost the parti variety and you are trying to bring it back.) If you can find a parti male with higher SOP than the starters breed him to Dolce as well as those starters.

The black v.s. black and tan in Fields appears to be of the K variety - dominant black in the above discussion.

If you have further questions, just ask.

Hope that helped.
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Thank you! This was super helpful!

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The Kennel Club (UK) system, which is also used by the Australian National Kennel Council[1] and in other countries, is considered the most difficult to earn a title under.