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I got this message from Jeff today

From: admin Sent: 8/16/2015 1:42:36 AM
Perro de Agua Oviedo has been dismissed from the ring because it is not yet fit for the ring. Please try training and conditioning this dog a bit more before entering it in more shows.

You were still charged an entry fee but the dog did not take part in the show.

Now this in itself is not a problem, EXCEPT yesterday I showed him and he was reserve winners dog, AND the day before I showed him as well - can someone explain please why he was 'conditioned enough' to compete before but not today?

Maybe the judge was in a bad mood?

But in seriousness, that is odd, I woukd message Jeff to see what that is about. If he was good enough to be shown in two shows prior, he should be good enough now. He's over 10 in training, condition, exercise, and grooming.

I hope this gets sorted out!

I had a similar problem. I had a bitch that was penalized by the judge due to her pregnancy. The problem is, she was past her 5 days from whelping!

I'm fairly sure each judge has their own 'cut off limit' in regards to obedience/muscle/coat condition - which is why if you were to try and enter a dog who wasn't fully sessioned (O=14. M = 15. C=16) then you will only have a limited number of shows to enter compared to a dog who has 19 or 20 in all 3.

(those numbers are just a guess)

Edited to add: I can't seem to find anything in the help centre about this?

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Last edited by Chaos and Havoc on 8/16/2015 7:03:49 PM

I didn't think those cutoffs were variable, but perhaps they are. Interesting.

I've never shown a dog that ill-prepared (lol).

I'd try sessioning those dogs a bit more and enter under the same judge - see what happens.

The help center actually implies that the cutoffs are fixed (www.showdog.com/help/topic.aspx?id=87), and that is how I've always found it to be.
I guess Jeff is the only one who knows for sure.

Have you changed his food reasontly? Some times when you change there food they may drop a bit, so it could be if you changed his food he may have dropped to below 10 for the show

Nope, not changed his food, his condition is slowly rising daily, so in fact he was less well trained, conditioned, exercised and groomed at the two shows he wasn't dismissed from.

I can only assume each judge has differing minimum requirements.....nothing else would explain it.

I know he's abysmally prepared but he's competing against all my other 'breeding up from source' dogs and someone has got to win so I figure if they are all pretty much of a muchness SOP (ie low) and similarly trained, conditioned, exercised and groomed it adds a little bit of that will he, won't he win anticipation.

He's entered tomorrow, lets see what happens.....

How did today go?

He was winners dog today gaining 1 pt!