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Right now, starters are horrible quality and it will take 3-4 years before they would ever be competitive in the current game.

Do you think the quality should be increased?

Some options:
Keep it the same.
Adjust the SOP to be a percentage of the current active average - 25% 50% 75% as examples

Do you believe starters should be of better quality?

Create starters that are 75% of the current average SOP for the breed		10.53%
Create starters that are 50% of the current average SOP for the breed		58.95%
Keep the system the same.		17.89%
Create starters that are 25% of the current average SOP for the breed		12.63%

Yes

I voted yes... Some of the recessive colors in a few breeds will likely take 3 or more years to get up to show standards. It is down right depressing lol...

I think a choice of better starters wouldn't be a bad thing, as has already been stated, getting some of the lost colours back into a breed is hard work especially with recessives

In another kennel I am part of the movement to bring back Portuguese pointers that were nearly extinct on the game. They are getting there, another couple of generations and they will be early 90's. (I already own a couple of dogs just above 90)

This was only possible due to one of the people in the breed finding a ton of hidden studs. We would have had to have started from scratch otherwise which can take over a decade. Few people are going to have the patience to do that.

Better starters would give people the chance to start their own lines and not have to dedicate a decade to doing so.

Yes! 50% of current standard would be very useful, not high enough that they are competitive in the show ring against current dogs but not so awful that bringing back lost colours to show standard is not so difficult

I think 50% of the current SOP would be great!

Great idea!

Jaime.

I agree with a lot of your points. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in starters to create a source line. But, I'd like the option of purchasing better starters to breed up from if I can't find a dog for sale in the breed.

This is a SHOWING game so I'd like to be able to show against current dogs sooner rather than later.

Will

I'd even be willing to pay more money for different tiered starters.

It will take a lot longer than 3-4 years to have competitive dogs if you are breeding purely source to source dogs. I've been source breeding for over 10 years and I still don't have any dogs that would win in the show ring. I wish source dogs had been better when I started my project, but oh well I will catch up someday.

WishMaker

fwiw..I voted 75%