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 Mauvais
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7/18/2008 3:48:34 PM reply with quote send message to Mauvais Object to Post   
The Other thread was getting confusing, so here we go. Here is the final template for the colour genetics with percentiles, as complied by Idals.

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AA - Fawn
Aa - Fawn, Black & Cream carrier
aa - Black & Cream

BB - Black Pigment
Bb - Black Pigment, Liver carrier
bb - Liver Pigment

EE - No Lemon
Ee - No Lemon, Lemon carrier
ee - Lemon

KK - Solid Black
Kk - Solid Black, non-black carrier
kk - Non Black

RR - Brindle
Rr - Brindle, Non Brindle carrier
rr - Non-Brindle

ss - Particolour
Ss - Irish Pied
SS - Non Particolour

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Fawn (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & "S")
AABBEEkkrrSS
AaBBEEkkrrSS
AABbEEkkrrSS
AaBbEEkkrrSS
AABBEekkrrSS
AaBBEekkrrSS
AABbEekkrrSS
AaBbEekkrrSS

AABBEEkkrrSsi
AaBBEEkkrrSsi
AABbEEkkrrSsi
AaBbEEkkrrSsi
AABBEekkrrSsi
AaBBEekkrrSsi
AABbEekkrrSsi
AaBbEekkrrSsi

AABBEEkkrrSsp
AaBBEEkkrrSsp
AABbEEkkrrSsp
AaBbEEkkrrSsp
AABBEekkrrSsp
AaBBEekkrrSsp
AABbEekkrrSsp
AaBbEekkrrSsp

Liver Fawn (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & "S")
AAbbEEkkrrSS
AabbEEkkrrSS
AAbbEekkrrSS
AabbEekkrrSS

AAbbEEkkrrSsi
AabbEEkkrrSsi
AAbbEekkrrSsi
AabbEekkrrSsi

AAbbEEkkrrSsp
AabbEEkkrrSsp
AAbbEekkrrSsp
AabbEekkrrSsp

Gold Brindle (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & "S")
AABBEEkkRRSS
AaBBEEkkRrSS
AaBbEEkkRRSS
AaBbEEkkRrSS
AaBbEekkRRSS
AaBbEekkRrSS

AABBEEkkRRSsi
AaBBEEkkRrSsi
AaBbEEkkRRSsi
AaBbEEkkRrSsi
AaBbEekkRRSsi
AaBbEekkRrSsi

AABBEEkkRRSsp
AaBBEEkkRrSsp
AaBbEEkkRRSsp
AaBbEEkkRrSsp
AaBbEekkRRSsp
AaBbEekkRrSsp

Liver Brindle (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & "S")
AAbbEEkkRRSS
AabbEEkkRRSS
AabbEEkkRrSS
AabbEekkRRSS
AabbEekkRrSS

AAbbEEkkRRSsi
AabbEEkkRRSsi
AabbEEkkRrSsi
AabbEekkRRSsi
AabbEekkRrSsi

AAbbEEkkRRSsp
AabbEEkkRRSsp
AabbEEkkRrSsp
AabbEekkRRSsp
AabbEekkRrSsp

Black & Cream (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & "S")
aaBBEEkkrrSS
aaBbEEkkrrSS
aaBBEekkrrSS
aaBbEekkrrSS

aaBBEEkkrrSsi
aaBbEEkkrrSsi
aaBBEekkrrSsi
aaBbEekkrrSsi

aaBBEEkkrrSsp
aaBbEEkkrrSsp
aaBBEekkrrSsp
aaBbEekkrrSsp

Chocolate & Cream (Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & "S")
aabbEEkkrrSS
aabbEekkrrSS

aabbEEkkrrSsi
aabbEekkrrSsi

aabbEEkkrrSsp
aabbEekkrrSsp

Black & Brindled Cream (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & "S")
aaBBEEkkRRSS
aaBbEEkkRRSS
aaBBEekkRrSS
aaBbEekkRrSS

aaBBEEkkRRSsi
aaBbEEkkRRSsi
aaBBEekkRrSsi
aaBbEekkRrSsi

aaBBEEkkRRSsp
aaBbEEkkRRSsp
aaBBEekkRrSsp
aaBbEekkRrSsp

Chocolate & Brindled Cream (Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & "SS")
aabbEEkkRRSS
aabbEEkkRrSS
aabbEekkRRSS
aabbEekkrrSS

aabbEEkkRRSsi
aabbEEkkRrSsi
aabbEekkRRSsi
aabbEekkrrSsi

aabbEEkkRRSsp
aabbEEkkRrSsp
aabbEekkRRSsp
aabbEekkrrSsp

Black (Has "B", "E", "K" & "S" - rest can be anything)
AABBEEKKRRSS
AaBBEEKKRRSS
AABbEEKKRRSS
AABBEeKKRRSS
AABBEEKkRRSS
AABBEEKKRrSS
aaBBEEKKRRSS
aaBbEEKKRRSS
aaBbEeKKRRSS
aaBbEeKkRRSS
aaBbEeKkRrSS
aaBbEeKkrrSS
AABBEEKKrrSS
AABbEeKkRRSS
AABbEeKkRrSS
AABbEeKkrrSS

AABBEEKKRRSsi
AaBBEEKKRRSsi
AABbEEKKRRSsi
AABBEeKKRRSsi
AABBEEKkRRSsi
AABBEEKKRrSsi
aaBBEEKKRRSsi
aaBbEEKKRRSsi
aaBbEeKKRRSsi
aaBbEeKkRRSsi
aaBbEeKkRrSsi
aaBbEeKkrrSsi
AABBEEKKrrSsi
AABbEeKkRRSsi
AABbEeKkRrSsi
AABbEeKkrrSsi

AABBEEKKRRSsp
AaBBEEKKRRSsp
AABbEEKKRRSsp
AABBEeKKRRSsp
AABBEEKkRRSsp
AABBEEKKRrSsp
aaBBEEKKRRSsp
aaBbEEKKRRSsp
aaBbEeKKRRSsp
aaBbEeKkRRSsp
aaBbEeKkRrSsp
aaBbEeKkrrSsp
AABBEEKKrrSsp
AABbEeKkRRSsp
AABbEeKkRrSsp
AABbEeKkrrSsp

Lemon (Has "ee", "S" - rest can be anything)
AABBeeKKRRSS
AaBBeeKKRRSS
aaBBeeKKRRSS
AABbeeKKRRSS
AAbbeeKKRRSS
aabbeeKKRRSS
AABBeeKkRRSS
AABBeekkRRSS
AaBBeeKkRRSS
aaBBeeKkRRSS
aaBBeekkRRSS
aaBbeeKkRRSS
aabbeeKkRRSS
aabbeekkRRSS
AABBeeKKRrSS
AABBeeKKrrSS
AaBBeeKKrrSS
aaBBeeKKrrSS
aaBbeeKKrrSS
aabbeeKKrrSS
aabbeekkrrSS

AABBeeKKRRSsi
AaBBeeKKRRSsi
aaBBeeKKRRSsi
AABbeeKKRRSsi
AAbbeeKKRRSsi
aabbeeKKRRSsi
AABBeeKkRRSsi
AABBeekkRRSsi
AaBBeeKkRRSsi
aaBBeeKkRRSsi
aaBBeekkRRSsi
aaBbeeKkRRSsi
aabbeeKkRRSsi
aabbeekkRRSsi
AABBeeKKRrSsi
AABBeeKKrrSsi
AaBBeeKKrrSsi
aaBBeeKKrrSsi
aaBbeeKKrrSsi
aabbeeKKrrSsi
aabbeekkrrSsi

AABBeeKKRRSsp
AaBBeeKKRRSsp
aaBBeeKKRRSsp
AABbeeKKRRSsp
AAbbeeKKRRSsp
aabbeeKKRRSsp
AABBeeKkRRSsp
AABBeekkRRSsp
AaBBeeKkRRSsp
aaBBeeKkRRSsp
aaBBeekkRRSsp
aaBbeeKkRRSsp
aabbeeKkRRSsp
aabbeekkRRSsp
AABBeeKKRrSsp
AABBeeKKrrSsp
AaBBeeKKrrSsp
aaBBeeKKrrSsp
aaBbeeKKrrSsp
aabbeeKKrrSsp
aabbeekkrrSsp

Fawn Particolour (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Fawn Pied (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Liver Fawn Particolour (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Liver Fawn Pied (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Gold Brindle Particolour (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Gold Brindle Pied (Has "A", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Liver Brindle Particolour (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Liver Brindle Pied (Has "A", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Black & Cream Particolour (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Black & Cream Pied (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Chocolate & Cream Particolour(Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Chocolate & Cream Pied (Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Black & Brindled Cream Particolour (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Black & Brindled Cream Pied (Has "aa", "B", "E", "kk", "R" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Chocolate & Brindled Cream Particolour (Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"])

Chocolate & Brindled Cream Pied (Has "aa", "bb", "E", "kk", "rr" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"])

Black Particolour (Has "B", "E", "K" & ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"] - rest can be anything)

Black Pied(Has "B", "E", "K" & ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"] - rest can be anything)

Lemon Particolour (Has "ee", ["sisw" or"spsp" or "spsw" or "swsw"] - rest can be anything)

Lemon Pied(Has "ee", ["sisi" or "sisp" or "Ssw"] - rest can be anything)

10% Total Solid K "Black" Dogs
- 3% Solid Black
- 2% Solid Black Pied
- 2% Solid Black Particolour
- 1% Solid Liver
- 1% Solid Liver Pied
- 1% Solid Liver Particolour

40% Total Fawn "A" dogs
- 15% Fawn
- 5% Fawn Pied
- 5% Fawn Particolour
- 3% Liver Fawn
- 1% Liver Fawn Pied
- 1% Liver Fawn Particolour
- 3% Red Brindle
- 1% Red Brindle Pied
- 1% Red Brindle Particolour
- 3% Liver Brindle
- 1% Liver Brindle Pied
- 1% Liver Brindle Particolour

40% Black&Cream "aa" dogs
- 15% Black & Cream
- 5% Black & Cream Pied
- 5% Black & Cream Particolour
- 3% Chocolate & Cream
- 1% Chocolate & Cream Pied
- 1% Chocolate & Cream Particolour
- 3% Black & Brindle
- 1% Black & Brindle Pied
- 1% Black & Brindle Particolour
- 3% Chocolate & Brindle
- 1% Chocolate & Brindle Pied
- 1% Chocolate & Brindle Particolour

10% Total Lemon "ee" dogs
- 6% Lemon
- 2% Lemon Pied
- 2% Lemon Particolour
 Couer De Lion
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7/23/2008 5:40:35 PM reply with quote send message to Couer De Lion Object to Post
GREAT! Ill email this link to all the Lowchen breeders to get them to check this out- there arent that many and Im sure this will get us colour nice and simply if everyone agrees!
 Cricket Cove
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7/24/2008 8:43:18 PM reply with quote send message to Cricket Cove Object to Post
It looks good to me--someone put in a lot of hard work, but I am confused about one thing. For a while I showed a friend's Lowchen for her. This dog was what I would call white, but her owner explained that because the white hairs were tipped with black she was actually a sable. Why don't I see the colors white or sable any place in this post?
 winduptoys
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7/25/2008 4:10:42 AM reply with quote send message to winduptoys Object to Post
quote
posted by Cricket Cove
It looks good to me--someone put in a lot of hard work, but I am confused about one thing. For a while I showed a friend's Lowchen for her. This dog was what I would call white, but her owner explained that because the white hairs were tipped with black she was actually a sable. Why don't I see the colors white or sable any place in this post?
Because Sable and Fawn are the same thing.
The "white" you saw was the fact that very few Lowchen hold the intensity of red pigment in their hairs into a reasonable age. It's teh Chinchilla factor which was left out (along with the greying factor) for the sake of simplicity - the simple but basically correct approach might mean we would get the colours sooner. Ones that involve thousands of combinations look less likely to get enacted than the simple ones.

There are pages and pages of different shades/combos of genetically "Fawn" dogs here:
lowchenworld.com/gallery.php?colour=fawn

Check it out happy :)
 Cricket Cove
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7/26/2008 6:22:44 AM reply with quote send message to Cricket Cove Object to Post
Thank you for directing me to that site--it was very interesting. I hope color will be implemented for this breed soon.
 ~Mauvais~
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7/28/2008 10:19:46 AM reply with quote send message to ~Mauvais~ Object to Post
Well since no one else has any input, it looks like we have a basic and set colour genetic table. Weeee!! PARTY! Lol.
 Couer De Lion
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7/28/2008 4:01:05 PM reply with quote send message to Couer De Lion Object to Post
That should be PARTI when talking about a color party roflmao :P

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8/1/2008 9:45:38 PM reply with quote send message to AngelAcres Object to Post
Yea!
So excited, can't wait for colors!!
Thanks for the hard work....
 ~Mauvais~
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8/8/2008 9:03:40 AM reply with quote send message to ~Mauvais~ Object to Post
And now we wait! So exciting. happy :)

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