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Author Topic : How many generations will it take?
 Timber Ridge Kennels
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3/27/2025 9:54:42 AM reply with quote send message to Timber Ridge Kennels Object to Post   

Starting to get discouraged a little bit. I'm on Gen 6 and everything but my SS scores are in the red (either 0s or 20s).
Kinda starting to wonder if I've been using the wrong strategy this whole time ??.
I've been trying to mismatch as much as possible (breeding 20s to 0s).
Is this a case of i just need to keep going?
 MoonKennels17
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3/27/2025 6:33:21 PM reply with quote send message to MoonKennels17 Object to Post

oh man it can take YEARS. I've been working on my ACC color project for two years and I'm just now getting them to competitive levels. If anyone has a way to expedite this process I also want to know!
 Caledonia
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10/28/2025 9:22:02 AM reply with quote send message to Caledonia Object to Post

Yep, am doing true source in American Eskimos, and like you, I am on Gen 4 and still all red. Breeding some 7+ SOP's and getting 6+ SOP's. It's like one step forward and 2 steps back....lol.

Gonna keep doing TRUE source though, breeding same Gen to each other.

Best of luck to you.
 Caulfeilds Kennels
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10/28/2025 10:14:14 AM reply with quote send message to Caulfeilds Kennels Object to Post

Take a look at my kennel.
Look to see their generation.

I started in 2006.

True source breeding is not for the ‘faint of heart’.
That is an expression, not an insult at all. happy :)

My Welshies are not show quality …yet.
Winning dogs in WSS are 98.6-98.7.

I have been working on improving traits over the years.
Still, at this point, I don’t care that their SS isn’t 20.
I’m not showing them anytime soon.

If you are not willing to put in the time (years) …and I don’t blame you, I would not breed true source dogs.

Carol
 XiZang
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10/28/2025 11:43:48 AM reply with quote send message to XiZang Object to Post

OK I have a question and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but sometimes I wonder, what exactly is the goal?

For instance, I had one of my dalmatian specials used as a stud for a source bitch, all red numbers. There are only 2 colors in the breed and the SOP is 100. What exactly is the goal?

At one point I couldn't find any blue Afghan Hounds and I (and a couple of others) spent some time reestablishing them but that was with a clear goal. I don't see it with the Dals.

Just curious.
 Caulfeilds Kennels
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10/28/2025 12:35:37 PM reply with quote send message to Caulfeilds Kennels Object to Post

For me, it’s just creating True source dogs.
Why? Because I can happy :)

Breeding a source dog to a Ch isn’t Source breeding.
That will get you a show dog more quickly but if you breed that dog it is likely that those source traits will come forward so your dog is less likely to point.

Carol

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