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Lisboa Basic User Posts : 115 |
Hi people
Christmas Cake Stakes today (www.showdog.com/shows/show_results.aspx?show=Christmas%20Cake%20Stakes), judged by Lorene Moore, had the BIS a Belgian Laekenois source dog of SOP 5.55 with all red traits except Show Shine, which is green. The dog had been sessioned (except condition). In the Working Group it beat a 99.65 German Shepherd into 2nd in group - this German Shepherd dog is fully sessioned, with 10s all along the top row (www.showdog.com/forum/newtopic.aspx?forumid=4). The source dog also beat the other Group winners - a Harrier of 96.45, a standard poodle of 99.60, a Viszla of 97.85, an American Staffordshire of 99.45, a Silky Terrier of 94.45 and a Rottweiler of 99.55 SOP. The handler used by this source dog was Aly DiMaggio, who is not very highly rated. What gives? |
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Karen RR Basic User Posts : 98 |
I don't understand it, but I believe this is the first BIS for a Belgian Laekenois. |
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gaylanstudio Premium Member Posts : 2,000+ |
The group winners all tend to be owner handled. She is supposed to be "not very political". Its making me question what that means . . . A short time ago she judged one of my shows, "Gaylan something" and the results were a bit odd there too - but not that odd (lol). |
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Whitegold Kennels Premium Member Posts : 39 |
I emailed Jeff about the Gaylam show but haven't heard anything. |
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Grasslans Premium Member Posts : 230 |
I think Lorene must have hit the Christmas drinks a little too hard before coming out to judge. My afghan boy who had her favourite handler who also normally goes up In Show under her didn't even get a place today and then she didn't even give the Afghan that did get BOB any thing more |
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AbleBaker Basic User Posts : 31 |
Hi We all work very hard to improve our breeds. Lorene being into the Christmas cheer a little early doesn't cut it. If Lorene is unpredictable, retire her (been done before after a bad show). Pity - she occasionally gave group placements to my dogs in various kennels. On a data processing concept - if the problem can be isolated to some bad code attached to Lorene Moore, then it's easily fixed. If the problem is intermittent or larger, then I have a problem too. |
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Grasslans Premium Member Posts : 230 |
It seems like Lorene has lost her judges touch. Another source dog going BIS. The weird thing is that all groups other than the BIG Hound and Working dogs are normal to be expected placements. Also looking at results leads me to believe that the kennel that won might also be abusing the whole one basic account rule. |
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Kalynda Basic User Posts : 411 |
And the problems continue to pile up... |
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Korthals Basic User Posts : 23 |
The name of the game is Showdog. Within the variability of judges, the results of shows should be acceptable. I don't accept a source dog winning a BIS. |
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Glittering Basic User Posts : 278 |
When I look at this show it appears to be still accepting entries, so the show is stuffed. Would appreciate Jeff's comment. |
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Comet Poodles Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
So, will we be seeing a source dog win the SDWC if Moore stays put? |
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Aussiewolfsister Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
No -- neither dog has enough points to qualify -- thankfully!!!!! |
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Flush Basic User Posts : 112 |
I've had no results at all for GaylanStudio 23rd December Show or Christmas Cakes, my breed,Manchester Terriers weren't judged or placed in either show. |
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Hazygate Basic User Posts : 500+ |
"Thinks dogs should be compared to how good they are vs the rest of their breed rather than overall quality vs all dogs." - I think this rule has gone awry (or maybe not?) And it is being interpreted that since this Laeknois (a rare breed I assume) has nothing else anywhere close to as good as the 5% SOP dog, it is a great example of its breed and thus worthy of BIS. I think that flavor of judge was specifically designed to give the rarer breeds a little leg up in group/BIS once in awhile. |
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