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Uh, am I missing something still? XD I was told that I should use the best ranked handlers on the game, but he's still DNPing, despite having 20 20 20. HALP!

He is 95.25 and was beat by a 95.85 he simply seems to just be about done in the show ring. You may still pick up points here and there, but Tollers are progressing beyond 95.25 being competitive in the ring. I personally am keeping 95.25s as broods only, but even that is being pushed out by higher SOPs.

No, not the best ranked handler on the game. The best rank handler from the judges list. Crystal Ramsey doesn't like Ellen, Veronica Sheidt is the best handler on her list.

Again, every judge has a handler list of who they like.

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Each judge has a preference for certain handlers. These preferences may be based on past experiences, showing style, or just plain old dirty politics. This preference is completely separate from the quality of the exhibitor, which DOES come into play in the show ring. Crystal Ramsey has been known to prefer the following handlers.

Rank Exhibitor
1 Brian Coke
2 Kelly Glenn
3 Elaine Stinson
4 Hun Sargeant
5 Janis Lopez
6 Valera Ortiz
7 Terrance Stuttsman
8 Bremy Scheffer
9 Veronica Sheidt
10 Mark Jetter
11 Bart Alderette
12 Lucinda Hunter
13 Carolyn Beerer
14 Aarry Schmit
15 Kath Hazlett
16 Judy Clarkson
17 Chry Krell
18 Adrian Campbell
19 Kristen Gowin
20 Chric Hoover
21 Bob Golub
22 Dianne Carter
23 Abby Stewart
24 Nata Deming
25 Evan Kown

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No Ellen.

This post
www.showdog.com/forum/read.aspx?id=471707

has a section on selecting handlers also.

The SOP thing does make sense. Thanks.

i don't remember who told me to use the best ranked handler...but I suppose they were misinformed too. I had been going by the judges' list before and wasn't doing so hot (back before he got his CH), so I figured maybe I had to go with a better handler.

Thanks for your help!! I'm sure I'm totally annoying with these millions of questions :P

In this post: www.showdog.com/forum/read.aspx?id=465711

In The Ghetto said

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You pick the handler with the lowest number on the judges list.

After you enter the dog, click choose handler, if you don't know if the judge is a Owner Handler or Handler judge, click on their name. If they like handlers, pick the handler on the judges list with the lowest number.
For example.

If I had a dog entered under Linda Schubert, I would pick Ellen Schroeder if she was available. If not Ellen, then Roxanne, if Roxanne was not available, then Reberol Pattison, etc. It's simple.

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When Beach Dunes said

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It seems to be the handlers in this case. Notice how the dog is getting points on Ellen and Bob because they are both in the top 5 handlers ranking

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She was referring to the correct handlers being picked for the prior shows. In that post you were never told to "use the best ranked handler" you were told to use the best ranked handler on the judges list.

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posted by Little River Kennel
The SOP thing does make sense. Thanks.

i don't remember who told me to use the best ranked handler...but I suppose they were misinformed too. I had been going by the judges' list before and wasn't doing so hot (back before he got his CH), so I figured maybe I had to go with a better handler.

Thanks for your help!! I'm sure I'm totally annoying with these millions of questions :P

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... You need to use the best handler on the judges list. They're not in order. Pick the best handler from the list. That's it. That's all you need to do.
The judges favorites change, so you have to look at them all while you're entering. I don't know how much clearer people can be. The information is pretty much handed to you when you're putting handlers on dogs.

For example:
Marjorie Moores top 4 handlers would be Maret Gentile, Jos Harter, Tod Brubaker and Art Toles

Scott Person top 4 handlers would be Veronica Sheidt, Bob Golub, Kristen Gowin and Yvette Glover

Ronald Brooks top 4 handers would be Ellen Schroeder, Stew Kellermen, Robert Pouk and Rogane Tuller

Myron Carlo top 4 handlers would be Maret Gentile, Jos Harter, Tod Brubaker and Art Toles

Sarah Brush top 4 handlers would be Veronica Sheidt. Bob Golub, Kristen Gowin and Elaine Stinson

Autumn Fuller top 4 handers would be Ellen Schroeder, Roxanne Leatherwood, Reberol Pattison and Joe Kensing.

The list and rankings are literally on every page when you assign handlers.

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Last edited by In The Ghetto on 10/27/2015 9:40:43 PM

Thank you! I don't know why I had so much trouble understanding that the first time 'round...