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Author Topic : Points Schedule is ridiculous!
 Lanakila
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9/30/2020 10:32:33 PM reply with quote send message to Lanakila Object to Post   

https://www.showdog.com/dogbreed/Swedish_Vallhund.aspx

This is getting old...every month breeds with very few entries, like Vallhunds and Plotts (in another of my kennels) take huge amounts for majors. Vallies went up to 8 and 10 for a major!! I literally only entered one show the entire month of September..the National. Yet, popular breeds like Australian Shepherds...who have big entries in every show every night, Take 4 and 4 for a major. The system used to calculate the points schedule is flawed and needs to be retooled. I guess I won’t bother trying to finish any Vallies this month. Ugh
 Dark Mirage
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10/1/2020 9:49:38 AM reply with quote send message to Dark Mirage Object to Post

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It seems like of a breed only has a few players and they tend to all enter only a few shows (the National, owner-handler judged shows, etc.) that the point schedule is skewed. A lot of show entries with lower breed counts brings the number down.

3-6 dogs entered in shows several times a week rather than 30 dogs entered in 3 shows all month will really make a difference on counts.

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 gaylanstudio
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10/1/2020 2:06:49 PM reply with quote send message to gaylanstudio Object to Post

As suggested, try entering a few dogs in every show - 2 males & 1 female, 2 females & 1 male. This is usually enough to get one point on the best in every show.

Unless you have a chance at group placing, skip the handler (its a time thing with me). If no one is using one it makes no difference and the true best one comes to the top, allowing for the various other biases the judge might have (i.e. gender).

Enter dogs that you might otherwise not consider showing. If the breed were more popular they'd probably not win anything but in low population breeds it will keep the schedule reasonable even though there is a strong tendency to load certain shows.

I confess, I load shows in certain breeds. I think of it as a real life thing - you want to get the "public" to notice your breed and realize what excellent companions/showdogs they are.
 BarStar
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10/1/2020 6:21:31 PM reply with quote send message to BarStar Object to Post

You've posted this before. Dark Mirage's suggestion was given last time by a player. Try it.

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 Lanakila
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10/2/2020 10:33:20 AM reply with quote send message to Lanakila Object to Post

Yes I posted this again because it’s still an issue. The point schedule is based on the number of entries throughout the month. One show a month should not make the schedule jump so high. I’ve had months where I entered ZERO shows and the schedule still went up. It’s ridiculous. It makes no sense and really should be looked at. The program that is used to calculate points is flawed. I’ve been playing this game for more years than I can count and am just tired of issues such as this.
 BarStar
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10/2/2020 2:54:43 PM reply with quote send message to BarStar Object to Post

Ok. No entries a month will not reset the point schedule. You have to still show so dogs show up in the system. You've stuck it out this long. Try like Mirage suggested and see if it fixes your complaint.

See if that works. If it doesn't feel free to come back and complain next month.

Will
 Lanakila
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10/9/2020 2:52:40 PM reply with quote send message to Lanakila Object to Post

I will try it and see what happens...

You all are long time players...don’t you get frustrated sometimes with how the game has changed over the years? There used to be a lot of dynamics with Jeff, and new and interesting things happening. Now it seems like the game is an afterthought. I don’t spend nearly as much time playing as I used to...
 PicketFence Kennels
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10/9/2020 4:06:07 PM reply with quote send message to PicketFence Kennels Object to Post

The point schedules do get frustrating sometimes. I guess they’re an average of shows that had entries rather than all shows together.

If a breed had zero entries during the month but the point schedule still went up, that might be a glitch of some sort. (If a breed has no entries during the month, do any dogs compete in the SDWC?) You might be able to text Jeff and ask him about it!

I don’t necessarily get frustrated with the changes in the game. Shows used to be more competitive and there used to be more community in the forums for sure, and Jeff was more available when there were problems. So I miss that. But I’ve found that players now are more approachable when you send them a message, and more willing to work together to accomplish goals. The color genetics are a really fun addition that we didn’t always have. And I do like that there’s usually a show with no CWC entries where I can show my dogs against one another with no handlers, just to see who wins. wink ;)

Sarah

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