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What is the best way to build SOP with only starters? I have Berners and cannot find any higher SOP zombie/hidden studs. So when looking to improve, do you look at the old SOP or the new SOP? It seems when I go with the higher old SOP I go backwards.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Diane

I hope someone will reply. Cause I'm wondering also I'm trying to breed sources also so keep in touch.

You have posted 2 identical questions.
Please see the comment in the first one.

Carol

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posted by Clwyd Cockers
You have posted 2 identical questions.
Please see the comment in the first one.

Carol

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Hi Carol,

I did, but they did not answer my question of whether you work off the old SOP numbers or the new SOP numbers.

Hi Diane

If you are talking about the Wheatens, I go by the new sop. it seems more accurate than those weird fake blues that pop up using the old version.

Linda(Dream What May) in another kennel.

I’m brand new and waited a while for my first litter(s), and am experiencing the disappointment of lower SOPs in the pups than I hoped for.

My assumption is that the random genes attributed to the source dog lineages affects puppy SOP, and that successive generations will improve as their “real” ancestors’ genes start to populate their pedigrees?

Also, for the most part my highest new SOP dogs tend to also be the dogs with the highest old SOP… and I still ended up with lower quality pups than either parent (a difference of ~16 new SOP pts).

I know most people say to go by the new SOP… but the old SOP seems to win in the show ring!