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| Just About Farms Basic User Posts : 90  |
I say NO. I play some games on Facebook where you can buy game cash and it is a really big advantage for those who are able to afford to pump a lot of money in the game and they are able to get to the top very easily. One thing I have always liked about this game is that it is fair to all. Your success is based on your game skills and a little bit of luck, not on how big your pocketbook is. |
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| Everkai Basic User Posts : 96 |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteAgreed. I'd be one of those who could afford a little bit, but I have other things that I'm investing in. It doesn't take months and months unless you got yourself DEEP into debt, and if you're to blind to realize that you're going DEEP into debt, then I'm sorry. My other kennel went into debt up to 500-600 about two or three weeks ago. I REALIZED this. I NEVER stopped showing. I kept breeding and showing, and now, I'll even take a screen shot, I'm about to hit 3k. |
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| Everkai Basic User Posts : 96 |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteEven in this kennel, I'm source breeding. I've had no pup sales or anything of that nature, I've even purchased source dogs. I'm now at 3k also. |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+  |
quoteUlterior reasons? Hm, we like the challenge and don't want to buy our way through the game? Is that bad? |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
quoteOthers that have gone into debt (as many mentioned, newer players) want to enjoy the game and keep playing, without spending months to "get back in the game," is that bad? Because someone has fallen into debt and would like to put a little money into their account to keep going, a lot of you are making it sound like their horrible people! Villifying them like they're going to dump hundreds of dollars to somehow conquer SD, and that is the only outcome that would happen. Because someone didn't properly manage their kennel, and many of you have stated you are now or have been in the red, shouldn't be a deterant and reason for some to leave, and it is. It's a fact I've seen many times, and the breeds I've been in have suffered because of it. People get overwhelmed with the thought of digging out of a hole (which could ne done and has been done), now everything is left stagnant and excitement for the game leaves, so they give up and leave. I'm willing to bet that's why 85% or more of newer players vacate. |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
The above was me, sorry. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteAnd there are people that have played for years that have a healthy bank roll that monopolized things here already. There are limits on what someone can sell a dog for and on stud fees, I doubt that would change. As far as closing kennels, already happens. Buying better dogs then everyone else, that also already happens. Show monopolizing already happens. I think perhaps maybe those issues are something you need to address with admin even if this isn't enacted if those are problems you have. Again, I think it's a bit premature and negligent to believe that Jeff wouldn't enact some safe guards against what you're proposing if this was introduced. ----- Last edited by Canyon View Kennels on 7/9/2013 12:09:18 PM |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
Funny that you negligent to describe my concerns when I feel the same about those burning holes into their SD balances. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quoteThere are people that unknowingly are going into debt thinking a daily salary is going to help. People thinking stud fees and sellng of quality pups will help. It's not negligence on their part, it's ignorance of the game. What feed to use, how to session and when and how to sale sessions. The Help page offers a simple guide to the game, but it's trial and error and investing time in the game. AGAIN, newer players aren't aware (a FACT since I've spoken to a few on and off during the years in different breeds and kennels) of these things until really immersing themselves and dedicating time. Losing these people in that trap is not exactly what I call "funny." ----- Last edited by Canyon View Kennels on 7/9/2013 12:44:10 PM |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
That's right. Investing time in learning how to play will avoid these conversations. What I fail to understand is how your balance is my problem. I play independently and I don't rely on puppy sales and stud usage. I've figured out method and Im not that bright, lol, so its not impossible. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
quoteIsn't that what I've said? But new players fall into debt without getting the time to learn and are discouraged by no funds. What I fail to understand is how your balance is my problem. I play independently and I don't rely on puppy sales and stud usage. I've figured out method and Im not that bright, lol, so its not impossible. Good for you. I applaud you for that. But I can ask you the same question. How is my balance your business or problem? Just how I choose to obtain my money is my business, whether it be through selling pups, banners, careful management or purchasing SD funds. Some aren't as bright as you, and would like to continue to play. |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
Some users finances are my problem because they are in debt and want to effect my gameplay with this suggestion of SD money? And please, don't ask me how because I've already stated my position. |
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| Welsh Corgi Kennels Basic User Posts : 5,000+ |
Canyon, if you open your eyes and read what I typed, then you should notice something. If someone new to the game got themselves that DEEP into debt, then it is their FAULT and we should not REWARD them with an easy way out. Sorry you feel different on the issue, but I see where you're coming from, but in the end, going into debt CAN BE PREVENTED. Like I've said MANY TIMES, I have a SOURCE BREEDING ACCOUNT. I'll posting a screen shot of my transactions. CAN you explain that to me? how I've been GETTING money and still able to spend money? I'll post the same with this account also. With Everkai source Ibizan Hounds, I have purchased SIX DOGS. That would bring my total from 2.5k down to 1.9k. As you will see in the transaction, with good management I have raised my bank now to $2,661.25. I have NOT had ANY puppy sales of any nature, or other dog/stud money incomes. Everkai bank account:   Other half of transaction (I even left some of the top transactions in the second so you could so I'm not lying.)  So...tell me again how source breeders will benefit? I seem to be hitting it off just fine with good management. YOU can do the same, I promise. It's not that hard at all. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
quoteOnce again, it circles around to my previous statement: quote |
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| Welsh Corgi Kennels Basic User Posts : 5,000+ |
I'm not trying to be rude at all Canyon, I guess I"m just trying to figure out where you're coming from. |
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| Degree Premium Member Posts : 500+ |
Im under the impression that Canyon thinks its good for us that we've figured out a way to stay afloat financially. But those that can't (or in my opinion, refuse to) learn how to play should have an option to "refill" their accounts. I wouldn't have learned how to play if I had a bailout option. And now Canyon will say "good for me." Hm, I have some kennel cleaning to do to lower my food bill and save money. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
quoteShouldn't be hard, being I've stated it over and over and over again. Running a source account, doing breeding within your own account, changing your session/salary ratio is something someone new to the game is going to necessarily know to do without trial and error and sticking with it over time. I do appreciate the posting of how you manage your kennel, being it's not my business nor do I care how you run your kennels. I have stated I'm not in debt, but can see the positives and think Jeff would take care of the negative concerns being raised. I'm done with this issue. |
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| Canyon View Kennels Basic User Posts : 144 |
this post has been edited 1 time(s) quote You seem oblivious to the fact that people aren't staying around to play the game, hence learning the game. It is an OPTION for some people to stay and play... I do appreciate how you're trying to paint me and others that see the option as dense and would like to see a advantage for some to cheat and get ahead. Because if you realize it or not, that is how your comments do come across. ----- Last edited by Canyon View Kennels on 7/9/2013 1:43:02 PM |
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| Welsh Corgi Kennels Basic User Posts : 5,000+ |
quoteThen to bad for them. Let them leave. This isn't Farmville. |
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| Welsh Corgi Kennels Basic User Posts : 5,000+ |
this post has been edited 2 time(s) Also Canyon, we're allowed to disagree, Just like you're allowed to disagree. Being rude to everyone isn't exactly mature.. and I'm aware you're going to make a huge post that in a way, insults me  I'm ready. and I'm about done with this post. I'm going to suggest to Jeff to lock it. So if you have a witty comment, I wont ever see it. Good day  |
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