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Bloodhounds are ready! Here's a link to the forum discussion.... www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110792&recordnum=0

Bloodhound Colors-

Red:
a(y)a(y) BB
a(y)a(y) Bb
a(y)a(y) bb (liver pigmented)
a(y)a(sa) BB
a(y)a(sa) Bb
a(y)a(sa) bb (liver pigmented)
a(y)a(t) BB
a(y)a(t) Bb
a(y)a(t) bb (liver pigmented)

Black and Tan:
a(sa)a(sa)BB
a(sa)a(sa)Bb
a(sa)a(t) BB
a(sa)a(t) Bb

Black (Solid Black; Tan Points):
a(t)a(t) BB
a(t)a(t) Bb

Liver and Tan:
a(sa)a(sa)bb
a(sa)a(t) bb

Liver (Solid Liver; Tan Points):
a(t)a(t) bb

We want to name these colors Red, Black and Tan, Liver and Tan, Black, and Liver.

Here are the percentages based on last years bloodhound nationals entries-

5% Red
3% Black
55% Black and Tan
36% Liver and Tan
1% Liver

Here's what we have for the DDB:

Red-40%
Mahogany-30%
Fawn-20%
Isabela-10%

Red mask-50%
Brown mask-30%
Black mask-20%

All DDBs are ay/ay and ky/ky

Fawn black mask
EM/EM B/B D/D i/i
EM/EM B/B D/d i/i
EM/EM B/b D/D i/i
EM/EM B/b D/d i/i
EM/E B/B D/D i/i
EM/E B/B D/d i/i
EM/E B/b D/D i/i
EM/E B/b D/d i/i

Red black mask
EM/EM B/B D/D I/i
EM/EM B/B D/d I/i
EM/EM B/b D/D I/i
EM/EM B/b D/d I/i
EM/E B/B D/D I/i
EM/E B/B D/d I/i
EM/E B/b D/D I/i
EM/E B/b D/d I/i

Mahogany black mask
EM/EM B/B D/D I/I
EM/EM B/B D/d I/I
EM/EM B/b D/D I/I
EM/EM B/b D/d I/I
EM/E B/B D/D I/I
EM/E B/B D/d I/I
EM/E B/b D/D I/I
EM/E B/b D/d I/I

Fawn Isabella black mask
EM/EM B/B d/d i/i
EM/EM B/b d/d i/i
EM/E B/B d/d i/i
EM/E B/b d/d i/i

Red Isabella black mask
EM/EM B/B d/d I/i
EM/EM B/b d/d I/i
EM/E B/B d/d I/i
EM/E B/b d/d I/i

Mahogany Isabella black mask
EM/EM B/B d/d I/I
EM/EM B/b d/d I/I
EM/E B/B d/d I/I
EM/E B/b d/d I/I

Fawn red mask
E/E B/B D/D i/i
E/E B/B D/d i/i
E/E B/b D/D i/i
E/E B/b D/d i/i

Red red mask
E/E B/B D/D I/i
E/E B/B D/d I/i
E/E B/b D/D I/i
E/E B/b D/d I/i

Mahogany red mask
E/E B/B D/D I/I
E/E B/B D/d I/I
E/E B/b D/D I/I
E/E B/b D/d I/I

Fawn Isabella red mask
E/E B/B d/d i/i
E/E B/b d/d i/i
E/E b/b d/d i/i

Red Isabella red mask
E/E B/B d/d I/i
E/E B/b d/d I/i
E/E b/b d/d I/i

Mahogany Isabella red mask
E/E B/B d/d I/I
E/E B/b d/d I/I
E/E b/b d/d I/I

Fawn brown mask
EM/EM b/b D/D i/i
EM/EM b/b D/d i/i
EM/E b/b D/D i/i
EM/E b/b D/d i/i

Red brown mask
EM/EM b/b D/D I/i
EM/EM b/b D/d I/i
EM/E b/b D/D I/i
EM/E b/b D/d I/i

Mahogany brown mask
EM/EM b/b D/D I/I
EM/EM b/b D/d I/I
EM/E b/b D/D I/I
EM/E b/b D/d I/I

Fawn Isabella brown mask
EM/EM b/b d/d i/i
EM/E b/b d/d i/i

Red Isabella brown mask
EM/EM b/b d/d I/i
EM/E b/b d/d I/i

Mahogany Isabella brown Mask
EM/EM b/b d/d I/I
EM/E b/b d/d I/I

Can any one help get English Toy Spaniels together,I am trying but I dont get it at all!!
all I know is there are 4 colours in the breed
tris, blk/tan, rubies, blenheim, but I cant find the codes.

Pointer colors:

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Black 1-BBEE carrying no recessive-(B1)
Black 2-BbEE Carrying Liver-(B2)
Black 3-BBEe Carrying Orange-(B3)
Black 4-BbEe Carrying Liver, Orange and Lemon(B4)
Liver 5-bbEE carrying no recessive-(L5)
Liver 6-bbEe carrying Lemon-(L6)
Orange 7-BBee carrying no recessive-(O7)
Orange 8-Bbee Carrying Lemon-(O8)
Lemon 9-bbee carrying no recessive-(L9)

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Pointer breeders have come to an consensus that we would like to follow this, with the division of colors being:

40% Black
40% Orange
10% Liver
10% Lemon

www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110903
www.angelfire.com/ma3/evermorepointers/1colorchart.html

Seems like it should be rather easy to implement.

Thanks,

Amy

When you get to poodles, it looks like all three varieties: Toy, Mini, and Standard have decided to all go together with the same genes and percentages. So you could potentially do all three at the same time? Depending on how your programming code is set up.

Anatolian breeders need help getting the genetic coding and color percentages. Here is the current thread on the topic: www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110806. We are more than willing to take any help offered.

Thanks for any and all help in advance,
JES

Redbone Coonhounds are done. Well, there isn't really anything TO do. I started a topic on the breed forum, and everyone agreed to just "red."

Happy Showing!
Starlite *

Does this help at all for doxies?

www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=111118

Jeff, do you still want genetic codes for breeds with only one color?

Here are the proposed and agreed upon color genetics and percentages for Italian Greyhounds!

Black: 6.25%
Blue: 6.25%
Blue Fawn: 6.25%
Fawn: 6.25%
Red: 6.25%
Red Fawn: 6.25%
Sable: 6.25%
Seal: 6.25%
White & Black: 6.25%
White & Blue: 6.25%
White & Blue Fawn: 6.25%
White & Fawn: 6.25%
White & Red: 6.25%
White & Red Fawn: 6.25%
White & Sable: 6.25%
White & Seal: 6.25%

The Genetics are as follows:

A Locus
A - Dark Pigment
ay - Restricted Pigment

B Locus
B - Black

C Locus
C - Full Pigmentation
ch - Diluted pigmentation (No effect on black)

D Locus
D - Full Pigmentation
d - Diluted with blue

E Locus
E - Dark Pigmentation
e - Restricted pigmentation (Blocks black)

G Locus
g - No greying

S Locus
S - Solid Color
si - White markings
sp - Piebald markings (For purposes of this game, we will just use one gene for white markings as we won't be specifying how much white is on the dog)

Black
AACCDDEESS
AACCDdEESS
AACCDDEeSS
AACCDdEeSS
AACchDDEESS
AACchDdEESS
AACchDDEeSS
AACchDdEeSS
AAchchDDEESS
AAchchDdEESS
AAchchDDEeSS
AAchchDdEeSS
AACCDDEESsi
AACCDdEESsi
AACCDDEeSsi
AACCDdEeSsi
AACchDDEESsi
AACchDdEESsi
AACchDDEeSsi
AACchDdEeSsi
AAchchDDEESsi
AAchchDdEESsi
AAchchDDEeSsi
AAchchDdEeSsi

Blue
AACCddEESS
AACchddEESS
AAchchddEESS
AACCddEeSS
AACCddeeSS
AACchddEeSS
AACchddeeSS
AAchchddeeSS
AAchchddEeSS
AayCCddEESS
AayCchddEESS
AaychchddEESS
AayCCddEeSS
AayCchddEeSS
AACCddEESsi
AACchddEESsi
AAchchddEESsi
AACCddEeSsi
AACCddeeSsi
AACchddEeSsi
AACchddeeSsi
AAchchddeeSsi
AAchchddEeSsi
AayCCddEESsi
AayCchddEESsi
AaychchddEESsi
AayCCddEeSsi
AayCchddEeSsi

Blue Fawn
ayaychchddeeSS
ayaychchddEeSS
AaychchddeeSS
AaychchddEeSS
ayayCchddEeSS
ayaychchddeeSsi
ayaychchddEeSsi
AaychchddeeSsi
AaychchddEeSsi
ayayCchddEeSsi

Fawn
AACchDDeeSS
AayCCDDeeSS
AayCchDDeeSS
AACCDDeeSS
ayayCchddeeSS
AACchDDeeSsi
AayCCDDeeSsi
AayCchDDeeSsi
AACCDDeeSsi
ayayCchddeeSsi


Red
AayCCDDEESS
AayCCDDEeSS
AayCCDDEESsi
AayCCDDEeSsi

Red Fawn
ayayCchDDEESS
ayayCchDDEeSS
ayayCchDDeeSS
ayayCCDDeeSS
ayayCchDDEESsi
ayayCchDDEeSsi
ayayCchDDeeSsi
ayayCCDDeeSsi

Sable
ayayCCDDEESS
ayayCCDdEESS
ayayCCDDEeSS
ayayCCDdEeSS
ayayCCDDEESsi
ayayCCDdEESsi
ayayCCDDEeSsi
ayayCCDdEeSsi

Seal
AaychchDDEESS
AaychchDDEeSS
AayCchDDEESS
AayCchDDEeSS
AaychchDdEESS
AaychchDdEeSS
AayCchDdEESS
AayCchDdEeSS
AaychchDDEESsi
AaychchDDEeSsi
AayCchDDEESsi
AayCchDDEeSsi
AaychchDdEESsi
AaychchDdEeSsi
AayCchDdEESsi
AayCchDdEeSsi

White & Black
AACCDDEEsisi
AACCDdEEsisi
AACCDDEesisi
AACCDdEesisi
AACchDDEEsisi
AACchDdEEsisi
AACchDDEesisi
AACchDdEesisi
AAchchDDEEsisi
AAchchDdEEsisi
AAchchDDEesisi
AAchchDdEesisi

White & Blue
AACCddEEsisi
AACchddEEsisi
AAchchddEEsisi
AACCddEesisi
AACCddeesisi
AACchddEesisi
AACchddeesisi
AAchchddeesisi
AAchchddEesisi
AayCCddEEsisi
AayCchddEEsisi
AaychchddEEsisi
AayCCddEesisi
AayCchddEesisi

White & Blue Fawn
ayaychchddeesisi
ayaychchddEesisi
Aaychchddeesisi
AaychchddEesisi

White & Fawn
AACchDDeesisi
AayCCDDeesisi
AayCchDDeesisi
AACCDDeesisi

White & Red
AayCCDDEEsisi
AayCCDDEesisi

White & Red Fawn
ayayCchDDEEsisi
ayayCchDDeesisi
ayayCchDDEesisi
ayayCCDDeesisi

White & Sable
ayayCCDDEEsisi
ayayCCDdEEsisi
ayayCCDDEesisi
ayayCCDdEesisi

White & Seal
AaychchDDEEsisi
AaychchDDEesisi
AayCchDDEEsisi
AayCchDDEesisi
AaychchDdEEsisi
AaychchDdEesisi
AayCchDdEEsisi
AayCchDdEesisi


Thank You,
Wendy

Vizslas

B Locus
bb - Brown (All Vizslas are homzygous for this gene, meaning they all have it)

E Locus
ee - Blocks Black and Brown, Results in Reds/Goldens (There are other ways to get the reddish color, but the article I read said that Vizslas are red because they are ee)

So the genetic code for Vizslas would be:

bbee

Miniature bull Terriers

A Locus
A - Solid
ay - Yellow/Red
at - Tan points

C Locus
C - Full pigmentation
cch - Reduced pigmentation of red/yellow

E Locus
E - Full pigmentation
ebr - Brindle

S Locus
S - Solid, No White
si - White markings
sw - Mainly white

Black & Brindle
(AA/Aay/Aat)(CC/Ccch/cchcch)ebrebr(SS/Ssi/Ssw)
AACCebrebrSS
AACCebrebrSsi
AACCebrebrSsw
AACcchebrebrSS
AACcchebrebrSsi
AACcchebrebrSsw
AAcchcchebrebrSS
AAcchcchebrebrSsi
AAcchcchebrebrSsw
AayCCebrebrSS
AayCCebrebrSsi
AayCCebrebrSsw
AayCcchebrebrSS
AayCcchebrebrSsi
AayCcchebrebrSsw
AaycchcchebrebrSS
AaycchcchebrebrSsi
AaycchcchebrebrSsw
AatCCebrebrSS
AatCCebrebrSsi
AatCCebrebrSsw
AatCcchebrebrSS
AatCcchebrebrSsi
AatCcchebrebrSsw
AatcchcchebrebrSS
AatcchcchebrebrSsi
AatcchcchebrebrSsw

Black & Tan
atat(CC/Ccch/cchcch)(EE/Eebr)(SS/Ssi/Ssw)
atatCCEESS
atatCCEESsi
atatCCEESsw
atatCCEebrSS
atatCCEebrSsi
atatCCEebrSsw
atatCcchEESS
atatCcchEESsi
atatCcchEESsw
atatCcchEebrSS
atatCcchEebrSsi
atatCcchEebrSsw
atatcchcchEESS
atatcchcchEESsi
atatcchcchEESsw
atatcchcchEebrSS
atatcchcchEebrSsi
atatcchcchEebrSsw

Black Brindle & White
(AA/Aay/Aat)(CC/Ccch/cchcch)ebrebr(sisi/sisw)
AACCebrebrsisi
AACCebrebrsisw
AACcchebrebrsisi
AACcchebrebrsisw
AAcchcchebrebrsisi
AAcchcchebrebrsisw
AayCCebrebrsisi
AayCCebrebrsisw
AayCcchebrebrsisi
AayCcchebrebrsisw
Aaycchcchebrebrsisi
Aaycchcchebrebrsisw
AatCCebrebrsisi
AatCCebrebrsisw
AatCcchebrebrsisi
AatCcchebrebrsisw
Aatcchcchebrebrsisi
Aatcchcchebrebrsisw

Black Tan & White
atat(CC/Ccch/cchcch)(EE/Eebr)(sisi/sisw)
atatCCEEsisi
atatCCEEsisw
atatCCEebrsisi
atatCCEebrsisw
atatCcchEEsisi
atatCcchEEsisw
atatCcchEebrsisi
atatCcchEebrsisw
atatcchcchEEsisi
atatcchcchEEsisw
atatcchcchEebrsisi
atatcchcchEebrsisw

Brindle
(ayay/ayat/atat)(CC/Ccch/cchcch)ebrebr(SS/Ssi/Ssw)
ayayCCebrebrSS
ayayCCebrebrSsi
ayayCCebrebrSsw
ayayCcchebrebrSS
ayayCcchebrebrSsi
ayayCcchebrebrSsw
ayaycchcchebrebrSS
ayaycchcchebrebrSsi
ayaycchcchebrebrSsw
ayatCCebrebrSS
ayatCCebrebrSsi
ayatCCebrebrSsw
ayatCcchebrebrSS
ayatCcchebrebrSsi
ayatCcchebrebrSsw
ayatcchcchebrebrSS
ayatcchcchebrebrSsi
ayatcchcchebrebrSsw
atatCCebrebrSS
atatCCebrebrSsi
atatCCebrebrSsw
atatCcchebrebrSS
atatCcchebrebrSsi
atatCcchebrebrSsw
atatcchcchebrebrSS
atatcchcchebrebrSsi
atatcchcchebrebrSsw

Brindle & White
(ayay/ayat/atat)(CC/Ccch/cchcch)ebrebr(sisi/sisw)
ayayCCebrebrsisi
ayayCCebrebrsisw
ayayCcchebrebrsisi
ayayCcchebrebrsisw
ayaycchcchebrebrsisi
ayaycchcchebrebrsisw
ayatCCebrebrsisi
ayatCCebrebrsisw
ayatCcchebrebrsisi
ayatCcchebrebrsisw
ayatcchcchebrebrsisi
ayatcchcchebrebrsisw
atatCCebrebrsisi
atatCCebrebrsisw
atatCcchebrebrsisi
atatCcchebrebrsisw
atatcchcchebrebrsisi
atatcchcchebrebrsisw

Fawn
ayaycchcch(EE/Eebr)(SS/Ssi/Ssw)
ayaycchcchEESS
ayaycchcchEESsi
ayaycchcchEESsw
ayaycchcchEebrSS
ayaycchcchEebrSsi
ayaycchcchEebrSsw

Fawn & White
ayaycchcch(EE/Eebr)(sisi/sisw)
ayaycchcchEEsisi
ayaycchcchEEsisw
ayaycchcchEebrsisi
ayaycchcchEebrsisw

Red
ayay(CC/Ccch)(EE/Eebr)(SS/Ssi/Ssw)
ayayCCEESS
ayayCCEESsi
ayayCCEESsw
ayayCCEebrSS
ayayCCEebrSsi
ayayCCEebrSsw
ayayCcchEESS
ayayCcchEESsi
ayayCcchEESsw
ayayCcchEebrSS
ayayCcchEebrSsi
ayayCcchEebrSsw

Red & White
ayay(CC/Ccch)(EE/Eebr)(sisi/sisw)
ayayCCEEsisi
ayayCCEEsisw
ayayCCEebrsisi
ayayCCEebrsisw
ayayCcchEEsisi
ayayCcchEEsisw
ayayCcchEebrsisi
ayayCcchEebrsisw

White
(AA/Aay/Aat/ayay/ayat/atat)(CC/Ccch/cchcch)(EE/Eebr/ebrebr)swsw
AACCEEswsw
AACCEebrswsw
AACCebrebrswsw
AACcchEEswsw
AACcchEebrswsw
AACcchebrebrswsw
AAcchcchEEswsw
AAcchcchEebrswsw
AAcchcchebrebrswsw
AayCCEEswsw
AayCCEebrswsw
AayCCebrebrswsw
AayCcchEEswsw
AayCcchEebrswsw
AayCcchebrebrswsw
AaycchcchEEswsw
AaycchcchEebrswsw
Aaycchcchebrebrswsw
AatCCEEswsw
AatCCEebrswsw
AatCCebrebrswsw
AatCcchEEswsw
AatCcchEebrswsw
AatCcchebrebrswsw
AatcchcchEEswsw
AatcchcchEebrswsw
Aatcchcchebrebrswsw
ayayCCEEswsw
ayayCCEebrswsw
ayayCCebrebrswsw
ayayCcchEEswsw
ayayCcchEebrswsw
ayayCcchebrebrswsw
ayaycchcchEEswsw
ayaycchcchEebrswsw
ayaycchcchebrebrswsw
ayatCCEEswsw
ayatCCEebrswsw
ayatCCebrebrswsw
ayatCcchEEswsw
ayatCcchEebrswsw
ayatCcchebrebrswsw
ayatcchcchEEswsw
ayatcchcchEebrswsw
ayatcchcchebrebrswsw
atatCCEEswsw
atatCCEebrswsw
atatCCebrebrswsw
atatCcchEEswsw
atatCcchEebrswsw
atatCcchebrebrswsw
atatcchcchEEswsw
atatcchcchEebrswsw
atatcchcchebrebrswsw

Bah, and who knows if these percents are going to matter:

Black & Brindle: 9.09%
Black & Tan: 9.09%
Black, Brindle % White: 9.09%
Black, Tan % White: 9.09%
Brindle: 9.09%
Brindle & White: 9.09%
Fawn: 9.09%
Fawn & White: 9.09%
Red: 9.09%
Red & White: 9.09%
White: 9.09%

Thanks for the help for the ETS.
can some one help me out on 2 more breeds,
I need Japanese Chins, and Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers.

Jeff, collie people need your opinion?
www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110060
Thats the thread in case you want to read it or respond there, but the basic question is how should we split up source dogs?
One idea is split it amung basic colors: Sable(pure), Tri, Blue Merle and then the other colors (Mahogany(tri factored pure sable), Sable Merle's, and Double Dilutes) would just appear due to breeding and how genetics work.
The other idea is we take every possible collie color (Sable, Mahogany Sable, Sable Merle(sable and mahogany), Tricolor, Blue Merle, Double Dilutes (sables, mahogany's, blue's)) and try and figure out percentages for those.
Which idea are you looking for? It would help us in getting things togeather. Thank you!

Chows are ready. There's a topic called Chow colors with all the details, including a very detailed breakdown, but a simpler version was created for us by Marchen Terriers (Thank you!)
Most breeders have not commented on the forum, some have been thru direct mails.
We seem to all agree on Rough coat only, and here's the breakdown, including percentages of starters:
A Locus
ay - Red/Yellow
aa - Recessive black

C Locus
C - Full pigmentation
cch - Chinchilla, Reduced Red/Yellow

D Locus
D - Full pigmentation
d - Black into Blue dilution, Red into Cinnamon

Black
aaCCDD
aaCCDd
aaCcchDD
aaCcchDd
aacchcchDD
aacchcchDd

Red
ayayCCDD
ayaCCDD
ayayCCDd
ayaCCDd
ayayCcchDD
ayaCcchDD
ayayCcchDd
ayaCcchDd

Cream
ayaycchcchDD
ayaycchcchDd
ayacchcchDD
ayacchcchDd

Cinnamon
ayayCCdd
ayayCcchdd
ayaycchcchdd
ayaCCdd
ayaCcchdd
ayacchcchdd

Blue
aaCCdd
aaCcchdd
aacchcchdd

Percentages
Red 35
Black 23
Blue 16
Cinnamon 15
Cream 11

Happy Showing!
Starlite *

Newfies

B Locus
B - Black
b - Brown

G Locus
G - Graying gene
g - No graying, Black stays black

S Locus
S - Solid
si - White Markings

Black
BBggSS
BBggSsi
BbggSS
BbggSsi
BBGgSS
BBGgSsi
BbGgSS
BbGgSsi

Brown
bbggSS
bbggSsi
bbGgSS
bbGgSsi

Gray
BBGGSS
BBGGSsi
BbGGSS
BbGGSsi

Black and White
BBggsisi
BBGgsisi
Bbggsisi
BbGgsisi

Brown and White
bbggsisi
bbGgsisi

Gray and White
BBGGsisi
BbGGsisi
bbGGsisi

Black - 30%
Brown - 16%
Gray - 16%
Black and White - 16%
Brown and White - 16%
Gray and White - 6%

This is what the Briard breeders came up with:

www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110236



~Peace

Neo Breeders: found some coding that should work for you, posted in Neo forum:

www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=111291&recordnum=0

Saints need some help writing the codes for our colors, patterns and coat type. If anyone would like to help us it would be greatly appreciated. Here's our forum so far.
www.showdog.com/login/Breeds/philboard_read.aspx?id=110063
Thanks,
GSP Saints

Code is being revamped will repost it soon.