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I like that this breed is so friendly. Not really the case in my other kennels (in two of them, I'm working on a color project in my RL breed since the non-dilute colors were pretty much gone, no one is showing right now, but I think I actually have some showable stuff now!)

And I like that prices are reasonable, I'm getting ready to do a stud search (one ready today, one tomorrow) and it's great knowing that I don't really have to focus on the price of the stud as part of my decision. (This is definitely not the case in my other two kennels, the non color project ones. Things are more expensive there!)

I think it's a good idea Spyte. However, I already have an stud outsource pattern in place to keep COI down & add diversity.

I am still all for trading between kennels, but perhaps more so for specific traits. As everyone knows, I am looking to introduce a bitch with a 9.2/9.3 in size to strengthen my trait breeding project. The offer still goes if anyone wants to trade

If you feel that your idea might be useful, Spyte, then I am happy to contribute

Analeyn

We could definitely do something like that Analeyn! Instead of just passing around bitches for COI purposes we could maybe decide on a trait we would like to see strengthened and then pass around a broodie who would help that, when person A is done with her they can sell her or FH her and put up something else that contributes to the trait maybe one of her offspring?

If we do this we could put the dog up for $100 on approval, and sell for $50 that way if spending the $100 is too much for some hopefully the $50 won't be. In the call name section for the bitch we could put Brood Project or something we all agree on and that way we know that we have her floating around.

Am I making sense? I would love to see this implemented for trait strengthening.

I might be the lone voice here....but I dont love the idea.

I more so meant that I think outright trades, for traits, are a good idea. i.e. Kennel A buys a dog from Kennel B and Kennel B buys a dog from Kennel A. A swap of dogs between two kennels, where the dog purchases benefit trait areas which either kennel is looking to improve.


I'm not so sure about an actual Brood Project



Analeyn

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I more so meant that I think outright trades, for traits, are a good idea. i.e. Kennel A buys a dog from Kennel B and Kennel B buys a dog from Kennel A. A swap of dogs between two kennels, where the dog purchases benefit trait areas which either kennel is looking to improve.


I'm not so sure about an actual Brood Project



Analeyn

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This I could get on board with. But the brood rotating....eeehhhh, I probably wouldnt participate.

#11, getting close to the top 10....

I really like that idea Analeyn. I am not sure how many people are working on a specific trait. I'm not currently working toward strengthening a certain trait.

I know one of us is working on size, I'm working on FQ, and I think someone might have been working on temperment way back.

Ok let me know if this is how you guys would like to see this run.

Say I have a puppy with good size, I put her up for sale and put Analeyn's name or something in the call name box so she knows that the puppy is for the trade and good for her kennel (if she wants it), in turn she puts up a puppy who say has good FQ who she would then put Small Dog Grove's name in the call name box, in turn they would put up a puppy who would help someone else's trait project?

Or would it be I trade only to whoever bought the pup, so if Analeyn got a bitch from me with nice size then I would get a pup from her?

I say pup but it can obviously be any age. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Forgot to add, if someone has a better way to do this of course lets hear it! Sorry! I feel like I'm taking over...

Why do we need an organized system? I know Analeyn is working on size. If I get a pup with good size that I want to sell, I send a PM and say "hey, are you interested" and that's the end of that. Why are we overcomplicating this? Or if someone else is working on a trait, and they see one of my pups up for sale, theyre welcome to buy on the first come first serve basis. Im not even sure why this is a thing...

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Last edited by Gypsy Wind Kennels on 2/2/2015 3:16:13 PM

I forgot to post this. Just on the offchance anyone is interested, I have made my three new boys available for breeding.

Two of them are only 94.85 (one - Keeper of Magic - has 9.3 forequarter).

The third boy is my 19.8SS boy King of Dreams, his best traits are 9.2 size and forequarter, and 9.6 gait.
(theoretical SOP 95.10)

All at $50.

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New stud up today. Other than his size (sorry Analeyn :P ), he's pretty evenly nice stats across the board. 3 out of 4 grandparents were grand champs, and both parents are champs- so pretty solid lines there I'd say. Only $25.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13700100

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The third boy is my 19.8SS boy King of Dreams, his best traits are 9.2 size and forequarter, and 9.6 gait.
(theoretical SOP 95.10)

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King Of Dreams is a huge asset to the breed - especially with that 9.2 size which is rather rare for Kees.

Analeyn

Here's hoping he passes that trait on to his offspring.
I think we need some higher traits in size, FQ and feet to be competitive for BIS.

Its nice to have a high dog for breeding, first for a long time, as I have been getting much better bitches than dogs before he came along. Have spent a fortune in stud fees as a result. I now have 3 95.00+ males (two quite young), although I class him as the best of them.

I'm excited about my litter sired by him. I am going to start working on feet as the trait improvement in my kennel. I agree with you, if we can get the last few traits that are behind up to speed we might have a really good shot at BIS

Agreed. It seems that judges like Wilfredo Feaster will our best chance - Analeyn Skyfall just placed 3rd In Show under him

I've been working on FQ for a while now, and the results are slow but promising. I have a dog with a 9.4 FQ which I am eager to use soon. Size and FQ are my main focuses for now.

Analeyn

Congrats on the 3rd in show

I have a 22 day bitch with 9.3 FQ, and two with 9.2 FQ.

One of the 9.2's, Faerie Dancing is now pregnant to King of Dreams. She also has 9.0 size, so I have my fingers crossed, for a nice pup.

I've got a dog with 9.3 FQ and 9.0 Feet that I'm just waiting to be able to breed to.