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Sorry Gypsy ---- but a little devil crept into my mind and took over, couldn't resist him *lol*
I have been thinking we need a thread in the Buhund forum --- but thought that being a newcomer to the breed I might be treading on toes if I start one - what do you think?

Congrats to Analeyn on your successes with Interstellar, he is doing very well all round.

Looking back through the posts I realize I have been remiss in not welcoming Lycaons --- Welcome to Keesies!!

Keesies might get a best in show from W. Feaster ---- if one of our dogs can beat that Sealyham Terrier who keeps getting BIS under him.

That Sealyham. One of that breed totally stole a BiS out from under Analyen a while back. Analeyn was robbed! Winterheart has some nice entries in the next W.Feaster judged show, so fingers crossed!

And yeah, Im getting kinda annoyed with Buhunds already cause of the lack of..well.. this. HA. I say one of us should do it, even if it turns out we're only talking to each other!

I will have to enter some dogs under Wildfredo once I have something to show lol hopefully one of us can pull it off and away from the Sealyham.

Under the latest topics page there are a few other breed threads started but none as great as ours. I read through the one and there were some interesting ideas. One person suggested a brood swap. Where once one user is done with a broodie they put her up for sale for $50 or $100 and someone else buys her and breeds her, if she is still producing nicely they can put her up for sale or FH her and put a new broodie up for sale. They figure it will generate lower COI and possibly some cash flow between the kennels in the breed. Thoughts on something like this?

I don't think we need this, but I thought it would be an interesting discussion topic.

Okay Gypsy -- will start a Buhund thread, even if it is only us talking, we may get some in eventually

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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 1/31/2015 7:15:50 PM

Spyte -- An interesting concept and could be very useful if we do find the COIs starting to go up. I think it is worth keeping in mind, at the least. I would be interested also in what other breeders think.

I think it could be interesting even if we don't have a COI problem. I don't think we need it, but if we wanted to experiment with it I'm all for it.

I think it would be fun to see what other breeders consider the best stud for said broodie. I know my opinion is different than yours and so on. Could be a fun little experiment amongst the bunch.

I like that this breed is so friendly. Not really the case in my other kennels (in two of them, I'm working on a color project in my RL breed since the non-dilute colors were pretty much gone, no one is showing right now, but I think I actually have some showable stuff now!)

And I like that prices are reasonable, I'm getting ready to do a stud search (one ready today, one tomorrow) and it's great knowing that I don't really have to focus on the price of the stud as part of my decision. (This is definitely not the case in my other two kennels, the non color project ones. Things are more expensive there!)

I think it's a good idea Spyte. However, I already have an stud outsource pattern in place to keep COI down & add diversity.

I am still all for trading between kennels, but perhaps more so for specific traits. As everyone knows, I am looking to introduce a bitch with a 9.2/9.3 in size to strengthen my trait breeding project. The offer still goes if anyone wants to trade

If you feel that your idea might be useful, Spyte, then I am happy to contribute

Analeyn

We could definitely do something like that Analeyn! Instead of just passing around bitches for COI purposes we could maybe decide on a trait we would like to see strengthened and then pass around a broodie who would help that, when person A is done with her they can sell her or FH her and put up something else that contributes to the trait maybe one of her offspring?

If we do this we could put the dog up for $100 on approval, and sell for $50 that way if spending the $100 is too much for some hopefully the $50 won't be. In the call name section for the bitch we could put Brood Project or something we all agree on and that way we know that we have her floating around.

Am I making sense? I would love to see this implemented for trait strengthening.

I might be the lone voice here....but I dont love the idea.

I more so meant that I think outright trades, for traits, are a good idea. i.e. Kennel A buys a dog from Kennel B and Kennel B buys a dog from Kennel A. A swap of dogs between two kennels, where the dog purchases benefit trait areas which either kennel is looking to improve.


I'm not so sure about an actual Brood Project



Analeyn

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posted by Analeyn
I more so meant that I think outright trades, for traits, are a good idea. i.e. Kennel A buys a dog from Kennel B and Kennel B buys a dog from Kennel A. A swap of dogs between two kennels, where the dog purchases benefit trait areas which either kennel is looking to improve.


I'm not so sure about an actual Brood Project



Analeyn

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This I could get on board with. But the brood rotating....eeehhhh, I probably wouldnt participate.

#11, getting close to the top 10....

I really like that idea Analeyn. I am not sure how many people are working on a specific trait. I'm not currently working toward strengthening a certain trait.

I know one of us is working on size, I'm working on FQ, and I think someone might have been working on temperment way back.

Ok let me know if this is how you guys would like to see this run.

Say I have a puppy with good size, I put her up for sale and put Analeyn's name or something in the call name box so she knows that the puppy is for the trade and good for her kennel (if she wants it), in turn she puts up a puppy who say has good FQ who she would then put Small Dog Grove's name in the call name box, in turn they would put up a puppy who would help someone else's trait project?

Or would it be I trade only to whoever bought the pup, so if Analeyn got a bitch from me with nice size then I would get a pup from her?

I say pup but it can obviously be any age. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Forgot to add, if someone has a better way to do this of course lets hear it! Sorry! I feel like I'm taking over...

Why do we need an organized system? I know Analeyn is working on size. If I get a pup with good size that I want to sell, I send a PM and say "hey, are you interested" and that's the end of that. Why are we overcomplicating this? Or if someone else is working on a trait, and they see one of my pups up for sale, theyre welcome to buy on the first come first serve basis. Im not even sure why this is a thing...

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Last edited by Gypsy Wind Kennels on 2/2/2015 3:16:13 PM

I forgot to post this. Just on the offchance anyone is interested, I have made my three new boys available for breeding.

Two of them are only 94.85 (one - Keeper of Magic - has 9.3 forequarter).

The third boy is my 19.8SS boy King of Dreams, his best traits are 9.2 size and forequarter, and 9.6 gait.
(theoretical SOP 95.10)

All at $50.

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Last edited by Aussiewolfsister on 2/2/2015 11:26:48 PM

New stud up today. Other than his size (sorry Analeyn :P ), he's pretty evenly nice stats across the board. 3 out of 4 grandparents were grand champs, and both parents are champs- so pretty solid lines there I'd say. Only $25.

www.showdog.com/dog.aspx?id=13700100

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Last edited by Gypsy Wind Kennels on 2/3/2015 3:47:27 PM